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Vaness Wu and LA Boyz

I've read from a lot of sites saying that Vaness Wu was origianlly from the Taiwanese boy band LA Boyz, but firstly: it's not mentioned in his own Wiki page, and secondly: it's not mentioned in the LA Boyz page either.

I'm pretty sure this isn't just a rumour of some sorts; can someone clarify this please? SunsetFlare 12:49, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I am pretty sure Vanness Wu was not in LA Boyz. He was just friends with them.

Slight Bias in its writing

I think a rewrite with neutral languange is needed on this page. It feels like its been written by a fan who has tried to keep their bias in check but nonetheless some of the language that is used definately presents POV.

In addition I recommend the section on Meteor Garden be shortened (the synopsis section removed) and given a link to the hana yori dango page (or if the anyone is so inclined to do so a new Meteor Garden page).

True or false

True or false: It is a good idea to move this page to F4 (boyband) to prevent people from thinking it is about the F4 key on the QWERTY keyboard 66.245.85.121 23:51, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I say true. mirageinred 19:37, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's perfectly fine..

I personally don't see anything wrong with this article. F4 is a popular, (terrible sounding) boy band created in Taiwan, and has been sweeping through Asia. F4 recently held a concert in China, and they are collaborating to make a third album. They're also sponsors of Pepsi and made a commercial recently involving stars of Asia (Edison Chen, Jay Chou, Sammi Cheng, and more) They consistently meet together and have interviews (most recent one has been on CNN Talk Asia, and the reporter herself said they're a band thats sweeping across Asia). I don't see any bias towards it. Individually they're strong as well. The band is known as F4, so I don't understand why the page needs to be taken off. I think the confusion between the key F4 on the keyboard and the BAND from asia is pretty minimal. Of course I'm not sure how popular it is in Asia since I'm from America, but according to articles I've read and seen, it has had sold out concerts etc. And I may be wrong.. but I think Japan is now getting a taste of Meteor Garden since they are airing episodes now? That may be wrong, so forgive me. But yea, I don't seen anything wrong about this site.

japan

i live in Japan, i know F4 from the chinese market. I have never seen or heard of anything F4 related in Japan in the mass media (as of 12/05). If they did attempt to break into this market, it has apparently not been as successful as this article would lead you to believe.

Somewhere in Japan there are probably a group of F4 fans, just like there are for any and every performer from around the world, but they have not achieved mainstream success by any measure I have seen. This is probably due to the fact that their music sounds terrible, and the group has no real music ability. Jay Chou and Edison Chen got more exposure here during the pre-release hype for 'Initial D' - Jay's videos even making an appearence or two on Japanese MTV... I don't think F4 have achieved this.

The description should be altered to reflect this reality (no 'next phase' has started yet).

question: resurge in japan?

what is this about the second phase of their pop career in 2005? I was unaware F4 had come back from the dead yet... I thought they pretty much split and went their own ways?

POV check

There are a lot of unsourced POV bits in this article... examples: "F4 is a popular boy band from Taiwan." "mobbed in Chinese-speaking cities such as Hong Kong and Singapore and profusely idolized in the Philippines, Thailand and Indonesia." "Meteor Garden took the rest of Asia as well".

We really need more source of information in this article. Kimchi.sg | talk 15:15, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is true that F4 is very popular in the asian country such as even in the non-chinese speaking country such as Indonesia, Philipines and Thailand. There's even a translated version of Meteor Garden in Bahasa Indonesia. As for Japan, they even started to produce a Japanese version of Meteor Garden. Besides that, they are interviewed in the CNN talk asia and in Japan, they are also introduced in Tsuuka Everyday stating that after hallyustars..F4 now bring hua liuaka chinese trend into Japan. Furthermore, they also appeared in various news and talk shows in the Philipines. Therefore, F4's popularity in the Asian countries is in no doubt.

"As for Japan, they even started to produce a Japanese version of Meteor Garden" that's because Meteor Garden is based on a Japanese manga. Appearing on a talk show is not evidence that they are popular, something like earning a gold record or platinum record in those respective countries would be evidence that they are popular.--Alchemy101 12:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But.. why didn't they notice the manga earlier and produce the show before the taiwan did?? its only after they saw the big impact meteor garden by F4 had caused.. then they decided to reproduce a jap version of it..

That's only speculation, have there been any press releases by the production companies stating that they're doing this on the success of meteor garden? If there has been you MUST cite it in the article (It SHOULD be a RELIABLE source preferably a primary source not a secondary one). You need to PROVE and provide evidence to your reasoning. Note that they have produced the Hana Yori Dango drama YEARS after the success of Meteor Garden manga adaptation thus would be illogical reasoning to suggest that they are 'cashing in' on the success. and can you please put a signature with your comments? --Alchemy101 03:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

chill k.. hehe.. you want evidence?? hhmm.. then go and have a loook at the CNN's talk asia interview on F4... i'm pretty sure they done research n sought EVIDENCE..before stating that F4 Is VERY famous yea.. even if i leave a signature.. u wont know who I am n where I'm from..so what's d fuss about it? cheers..

that evidence being.... ? --Alchemy101 05:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I agree that F4 is definitely still very famous, even though they might not be as active as a few years earlier. The talk asia video can be watched here http://www.vidilife.com/video_play_583578_CNN_s_Talk_Asia_with_Taiwan_s_F4.htm --meteorclare

Not Biased

Having seen the CNN Talk Asia Video(yes the full video 21+ minutes), I don't see how the article is bias. Unless one is saying that the CNN video is bias to begin with. =/ --Hikoto 6 September 2006

Duhh!! A News agency such as CNN cannot be biased?? Give me a break, I mean, are you trying to refer to someone credible and neutral at the same time? If so, CNN is not one such agency to be used for this reference! A documentary from Discovery or NGC or perhaps a statement made by an international organization such as the UN might be something that you can claim neutrality upon referencing. But sorry, CNN is a show that is customized to fit the world audience, hence, it can be biased.

Why on Earth does this article keeps getting shorter and shorter?

It used to be much longer with full feature photographs and a wide variety of topics. But now it's been reduced to a mere hasty work. Now, I would like to know who's the bandit behind this.

OMG. This page is so messy. There isn't even mentioned how many members this boyband has...(and who they are). Anyways i added a new section about their solo careers. Sadly, i don't know anything about F4 so i couldn't add more information. Any help would be appreciated. I also deleted some ridiculous parts such as 'In 2001 F4 became an OK sounding band' etc. Hope no one minds xDD. TLflow 21:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've trawled Wiki around looking for a good example of band articles. I think something like Epik High would provide a good (it could still be better) template which this article could follow. Alchemy101 12:32, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Epik High article being a template. I second that. --218.111.181.206 15:09, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Discography

I'm working on the Vanness Wu article and noticed there was no discography on this page. So I moved the existing one on Vanness' page over here. It needs some cleanup! --Hamuhamu (talk) 06:43, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

VIC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.225.166 (talk) 21:31, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

anna love you

vic kin jerry vannsse —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.225.166 (talk) 21:34, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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