Talk:Electronic toll collection

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Aren't many of these technologies also used as an easy way of billing customers at parking lots and parking meters? Some text on that would be nice. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 169.237.165.40 (talk • contribs) 22:01, 5 June 2005 (UTC)

Technical Origin

The initial version is described in the summary as a move from Toll road (which is mostly true) but the initial 'graph of the initial revision of the article is largely preserved there as the third 'graph in Toll road#Toll collection technology, and here in the lead 'graph.

In writing the original version that 'graph, i relied on my misunderstanding of IFF as the aircraft technology. I have recently learned that (despite the similarities) the IFF systems of US tanks were specifically adapted to serve recent years' surge of ETC systems. Thus i am changing "aircraft" to "military" in both places.
--Jerzy•t 21:19, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Misplaced ETC material

The original move of material from what has become Toll road#Toll collection technology to this talk page's article failed to make the lk to here a "Main article" lk, and material suited to this article has continued to accumulate in the other. The ideal time to retrofit such a lk is in the same edit that moves the misplaced material from there. I'm doing neither at this time, in the hope that someone more willing to work extensively on the article will do a better job of integrating the moved material than i eventually will, if it stays at it is too long.
--Jerzy•t 21:19, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Toll Collection Systems

There is an inconsistency with this section, namely for Australia. Notice that for each of the other countries the collection systems themselves are mentioned. For Australia, the motorways and freeways are mentioned. The systems include E-Way, E-Tag etc... not the "M4 Motorway". If someone has a complete list of Australian electronic toll collection systems, it would be something to look at updating. Ozzah 12:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've created a stub on e-TAG - Transurban came up with it for CityLink in Melbourne, and it has since spread to Sydney after Transurban brought out some roads there. e-TAG appears to called 'Roam' interstate. I'm not sure what systems Sydney and Brisbane used before that. Wongm 01:59, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've corrected information that suggested that the E-Tag only worked in Sydney. 58.105.35.196 (talk) 09:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the reference to the fact that Portugal only implemented this system in 1995 is wrong and should be updated. Via Verde (literally "Green Lane") is an electronic toll collection system used in Portugal since 1991, and extended to every toll in every freeway/motorway and bridge in the country since 1995. Therefore it has been in place well before 1195 as claimed on the article. Due to the widespread use of the Via Verde, it is now being expanded to other areas outside toll fee collecting. Many carparks and some service stations now use it. This system is fully integrated, which means one tag works everywhere. Andresilvacampos (talk) 14:09, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merging separate ETC system articles together

This discussion has gone stale, with no clear consensus on what exactly to do. The participants agreed that a list or merge should be done for the less notable programs, while more notable ones should have their own articles. It doesn't appear that anything has been done. There are still 50-something articles in the ETC category. Further discussion might be needed.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 01:53, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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We have 55 articles in Category:Electronic toll collection, more than half of which are ETC programs, such as E-ZPass or Via Verde. Many of them are filled with cruft, such as tolls on specific roads, monthly fees, who to contact to get a box, how you get discounted tolls, etc. But the premise behind ETC is the same: you get a box/card, you put it in your car, you drive around, and you pay at a different time. I don't think we need nearly 30 articles describing how you get a box/card, put it your car, drive around, and pay at a different time. But, I'm not sure how to remedy this. Aside from needing references, this article is decent as it is today. Could we simply redirect every ETC program article here? Merge them all into a list? By-country lists? –Fredddie ™ 04:53, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If we were to do a list, I say we do it by-country. Larger systems, such as E-ZPass, should be allowed an exception to have their own articles. Dough 48 72 04:58, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
E-ZPass could have I-Pass (the Illinois variation) and I-Zoom (the former Indiana variation) merged into it because they are brand names specific to the two states for systems that are interoperable. Other systems could possibly be merged into their toll authority/agency articles. Imzadi 1979 → 18:59, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
My first thought is to merge every specific ETC program into a list in the ETC article. Those systems that have more than one paragraphs of unique information, such as E-ZPass, can retain their own articles. However, perhaps we should do a survey of the articles in the category first. We might find it better to separate the technology and specific applications of that technology. That separation would involve creating a List of electronic toll collection programs to house the programs and maintain the information about the technology, standard procedures, etc., in the Electronic toll collection article. If a particular program has more than two paragraphs of non-unique information, like E-ZPass, it can retain its own article. V C 23:50, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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