Talk:Stefan Lochner

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It's probably from the 1911 EB--nixie 05:29, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Merge Difficulties

I just tried to put up a redirect to the page from Stephan Lochner, but it seems not to be working. Can anybody see what I may have missed?

Yvh11a 01:46, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Parents' death

Found a snippet on Questia, copying here. Might be useful:

"A letter of 16 August 1451 from the town council of Cologne to the Meersburg council mentions the recent death of Lochner's parents at Meersburg and the painter's inability (through illness?) at that time to travel to Meersburg: published first by J. J. Merlo, Kölnische Künstler in alter und neuer Zeit (ed. E. Firmenich-Richartz and H. Keussen) 1895, cols. 836-7."

Source: The German School. Michael Levey - Author. Publisher: Publications Dept. National Gallery. Place of publication: London. Publication year: 1959. Page number: 59

Might have additional info...will suss out. Ceoil (talk) 21:03, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

The letter is mentioned in a lower section; I hadn't seen it reading from top to bottom, so this is probably not necessary. Or maybe add as a note that a letter was sent to Meersfeld after the parents' death. Presumably all we know is they were living there when they died, but no documents survive to attest to whether they or their son were born there. Victoria (tk) 21:30, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Will so. Sound. Ceoil (talk) 22:58, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Comments

Am dumping a couple of comments here after reading this, in case I forget or don't get back for a while.

• First James Snyder's Northern Renaissance Art has about 3 to 4 pages of dense text, (I have it if you don't), which should be checked in case he's included anything that Chapuis missed or that's interesting.
• Second, there's a German source re the Durer visit to Cologne that I have pulled I can & read, so as to smooth that section a little - it's quite comprehensive.
• The third point is a little more complicated: Larry Silver mentions Lochner in passing, in "The State of Research in Northern European Art of the Renaissance Era", and Silver has since written a follow up article with another tiny mention. He explains that during the 20th cent. many of the German artists were overlooked because of the wars, hence the lack of archival evidence, etc. etc. I think it might be worth adding a para or so about this to underscore the reasons we know so little and that there's not been a lot of research. Reviews of Chapuis' book might help in that regard too, if you wanted to go in that direction. That's all. Victoria (tk) 16:45, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!!! I don't have Snyder and surpassed my limit of art book purchases with Chapuis' very fine monograph on Lochner; currently saving for a rather expensive thome on Cimabue. Thinking re Silver, will add and clf. Ceoil (talk) 17:11, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

circles within circles within circles

I got Snyder from the library for something else but noticed it has a section re Lochner. It has to be returned tomorrow, so I just took a quick look and the things that jump out at me is that he mentions use of circles: haloes, circles of angels, circular heads. The other thing he mentions is the subdued palette. I think I'll go ahead and add; if you hate it's fine to remove. Re Silver - a little more difficult to explain. The article I have is from 2006 (from Project MUSE, I've lost access to Jstor), so I'll send on to you for you to decide. It's a good article to have anyway. The one that's in German will take a while to read, but it is interesting re Durer's visit to Cologne. Victoria (tk) 18:06, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

I have a copy of Snyder if needed. Johnbod (talk) 04:25, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Cologne Tryptych

Please weigh in at Talk:Dombild Altarpiece. A Google search of book references shows a rough tie between Adoration of the Magi and Patron Saints of Cologne. Sparafucil (talk) 05:31, 8 December 2018 (UTC)