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Genre - Goth Rock?

My genre knowledge is pretty limited, but I seriously doubt this album is considered Gothic Rock...? I'm going to change it back in a couple days unless anyone tells me why it is Gothic Rock. TheMaster42 09:23, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not. It is more goth orinated then their previous albums, but not gothic rock. Dwnsjane2 19:09, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More post-punk than goth rock.

This album is actually about as gothic ast heir previous releases - just in different ways. The imagery is less horror-based, moving in the directions the Days of the Phoenix layed out, though the sound is laying into some goth stuff. However, I still wouldn't call STS "goth rock". Punk Rock, really. - Enzo Dragon 18:32, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not goth rock, it's not post-punk.Just dark alternative rock/punk rock. Xr 1 16:49, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Im going to add Hardcore Punk to the genre list of Alternative Rock and Punk Rock. This because of the three songs The Leaving Song, Pt. II, Dancing Through Sunday and Death of Seasons fit into this genre.

I think it fits post hardcore more than anythng. If you listen to heroine by from first to last a post hardcore album they sound pretty similar between sing the sorrow and heroine I mean. I think the trouble with categorizing AFI on sing the sorrow is just that their roots are being taken into concideration too much. All punk roots aside, this is a post hardcore album imo Boomboxenator (talk) 17:24, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly you have no idea what "Post-Hardcore" is. Your opinion is void, as no sources claim Sing The Sorrow to have any Post-Hardcore. This album is Alternative Rock mixed with Gothic Rock, Post-Punk, and Industrial elements. NineInchNailed —Preceding undated comment was added at 09:06, 17 January 2009 (UTC).[reply]

I Am the one who is putting in the gothic rock genre constantly because i feel with all due respect. that it is the most darkest album because listen to songs like the leaving song silver and cold and the hidden spoken word although it has elements of hardcore punk even sometimes pop punk. but it is very dark. And i think AFI exept the goth label for both sing the sorrow and the art of drowning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.237.86 (talk) 11:28, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My vote is probably Pop-punk, due to the things of Girls not Grey that likens it to some of The Offspring's work. It is kinda dark, so gothic rock should stay there, but also add post-hardcore and other stuff. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.17.12 (talk) 07:56, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It has to be reset to alternative rock, and [I]just[/I] alternative rock. It is not gothic rock, because The Great Disappointment, This Time Imperfect and Miseria Cantare are the only songs with any connection to gothic or goth-rock. It is definitely not industrial rock, because only Death of Seasons contains industrial music. It is not pop-punk because only Girl's Not Grey could possibly fit into that category, and it really doesn't even fit into that itself. Pop-punk is blink-182 or Sum 41. Girl's Not Grey is merely a punk song with a pop hook chorus. That chorus doesn't define the entire album. You can't really say the album is post-hardcore, because only Death of Seasons and The Leaving Song, Part II are post-hardcore. Screaming doesn't make a song post-hardcore, 2 songs don't make an album post-hardcore. Whoever you are that keeps setting it as gothic rock, you really need to stop. There's a reason it keeps getting changed back. There is no true way to categorize the album except as alternative rock, thus that is the one and only genre we can really put up without letting personal opinion get in the way. And seriously, all professional-ness aside, listen to Silver and Cold and tell me the album is pop-punk. 208.54.40.217 (talk) 21:38, 20 June 2011 (UTC)Rabid AFI fan 6.20.11[reply]

^That, and STOP CHANGING THE GENRE!! 208.54.40.217 (talk) 19:44, 21 June 2011 (UTC)A Wikia Contributor 6/21/11[reply]

Theory

Sing the Sorrow is a concept album about a man who dies and is destined never to reincarnate because he possesses the Chinese astrological sign of the Rabbit. (The Rabbit makes an appearance in the music video for "Girl's Not Grey")

No, that's just one theory about it. Nothing has been proven.

According to wikipedia policy, aren't compilation and live albums supposed to be overlooking for the purposes of the "next" and "previous" albums in the chronology? In that case, the next album should be 2006's Decemberunderground rather than 2004's AFI.

Cleaned up

I have removed everything from this article that was largely speculative. This is an encyclopedia, not a forum, so information should be more concrete then someone's "maybe, could be". - 70.16.200.84 03:29, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Miseria Cantare translation

As far as I know, 'miseria cantare' does not translate to 'we sing misery', as 'cantare' is the infinitive of the verb. Therefore, it can't be translated any other way than just 'sing' (or perhaps 'to sing', but that's being pedantic.) 84.25.225.228 18:24, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If translated to Spanish and if you add an accent on the last E of "Cantare" that makes it future tense, hence translating it to "Misery I will sing."

Who knows? I mean, they have used Spanish in anopther song (Love Lik Winter), but I think Latin is more probable for "epicness" or "mysterousness" puposes.

Miseria Cantare is very loosely Latin for "Sing the Sorrow". Canto means sing, and adding the verby thing at the end makes it Sing the. Then Miseria roughly means sadness, misery etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.17.12 (talk) 07:47, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Concept Album

Why do people say this is a concept album? Bramblestar (ShadowClan Leader) (talk) 04:00, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hidden track lengths

I know these because I have used Wave Recorder on three copies of "...But Home Is Nowhere". I cut them all down so that it was just one song (One was ...But Home Is Nowhere, another was Untitled/Spoken Word, and the last was This Time Imperfect). Call it original research or speculation, but these lengths are real. Bramblestar (ShadowClan Leader) (talk) 02:58, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Synesthesia or Synthesthesia ?

on my CD it is written Synthesthesia - I guess that's some sort of spelling mistake but if it's written that way on all CDs I guess it should be corrected in the article. 212.50.76.237 (talk) 20:26, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...but home is nowhere

Is the title known as "...But Home Is Nowhere" or "...But home is nowhere"? --124.184.58.114 (talk) 02:14, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The inclusion of a hidden track

"Lyrically, the album is darker and more poetic than previous material, with the inclusion of a hidden track containing a spoken word poem accompanied by piano keys and distorted synth sounds."

The Art of Drowning and Black Sails In The Sunset (the two previous albums) both had hidden tracks as well. This sentence seems to imply that the inclusion of a hidden track was part of the new direction that the band was taking. I would just edit it but I'm worried I'm just reading into it wrongly. PersnicketyGareth (talk) 15:07, 2 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Currently, the bit about the hidden track says that it "leads into" a spoken word poem, but this is incorrect, as in fact, the spoken word poem is the first part of the hidden track, and that leads into the actual song Kronos o (talk) 04:46, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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