Talk:Wild Strawberries (film)

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References to use

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Arlow, Jacob A. (2001). "The End of Time: A Psychoanalytic Perspective on Ingmar Bergman's Wild Strawberries". In Gabbard, Glen O (ed.). Psychoanalysis and Film. International Journal of Psychoanalysis Key Paper Series. Karnac Books. ISBN 1855752751.

Move

I moved this to Wild Strawberries (movie) because there's a group called Wild Strawberries, and so capitalization alone won't disambiguate. --KQ

Inserted the Swedish language title - although I don't know Swedish, my source on the literal translation of the title is the region 1 Criterion DVD commentary. Swedish-speakers, be bold - I am dubious esp. about the inclusion of the definite article, but that's what the commentator said... Ellsworth 14:55, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

The translation is correct as Swedish doesn't have a seperate word for the definite article, they use a suffix. In this case the suffix is just the final "t". To say "wild strawberry patch" without the definite article in Swedish, it'd be "smultronställe". Jizz 12:00, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Also, in Swedish, the word is also used figuratively as "one's personal favorite spot". 惑乱分からん 23:10, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Swedish word "smultronställe" has a range of connotations beyond simply a place where one can find wild strawberries, to the point where the word is used idiomatically most of the time. The short description here doesn't do it justice entirely, but I can't think of any better explanation that wouldn't end up unnecessarily lengthy for this article. Suffice to say, the English translation isn't anywhere near the actual/intended meaning of the original title. - Alltat (talk) 14:58, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Swedish word "Smultronstället"would directly translate to "the strawberry place/patch", wild strawberries would have to be "vilda smultron". I agree with Alltat that a the definition of the idiom "Smultronställe" isnt quiet sufficient sins it is so much more then once "favorite" place. That which brings them all together though, is the fact that its a place of serenity. A place without technology, a place without people. Simply put it's you alone in nature in a place that causes you to stop worrying. take a breath and just enjoy life. That of course doesn't come close to what a "smultronställe" really is though. I believe that the expression would need a wikipage of its own, and even then its an imposible task as I don't think its even been defined to it's true meaning.

90.237.138.100 (talk) 22:34, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IMDb

Is it necessary to mention in the article that IMDb has this film in their top 250. Imdb is a great site for movie data, but their users who rate the films are mainly mainstream filmgoers - not many cinephiles I have encountered (or people who watch Bergman anyway) consider IMDb.com a credible source. From my experience a site like theyshootpictures.com, who also ranks Wild Strawberries among their top, has more validity among the more serious filmgoers.

eta - The above question must appear awfully snobbish to some, but I don't care. Nyah. Igorrr 17:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was NO CONSENSUS to move page, per discussion below. -GTBacchus^(talk) 02:53, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wild Strawberries (film) → Wild Strawberries — I think the film is by far the most notable usage of the phrase. A few bands are called Wild Strawberries (named after the film, I'm sure) but that's it. Wild Strawberries would need to be moved to Wild Strawberries (disambiguation) if the vote passes. Recury 18:34, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Survey - in support of the move

Support as nominator. Recury 18:35, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support'. Sounds sensible.Cop 633 18:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Survey - in opposition to the move

Oppose When I think of Wild Strawberries, I think of...well strawberries which has several non-domesticated species like Fragaria daltoniana. Coupled with the other competing uses, the primary topic should be a disambiguation pages. whether or not the bands are named after the film is pointless and irrelevant. 205.157.110.11 22:32, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I think of strawberries also. And popular culture shouldn't take precedence over common English. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 07:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don't think there's a definitive way of establishing a main topic. It does no real harm to have disambiguation pages in the main slot as it allows for everyone to easily find what they're seeking. GassyGuy 16:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don't think i have heard of the band or the movie but like the others, it makes me think of the fruit. Simply south 01:34, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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Of course there are actual wild strawberries, but there is no article called that. Even if there were, it would not be capitalized the same and therefore has nothing to do with this vote. Recury 12:30, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A reader searching for something doesn't particularly care about capitalization when they are typing in the search box. 205.157.110.11 22:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And they will only know that wild strawberries doesn't exist till after they tried to look for it by typing that in the search. Partially meaning there probably should be an article, or even a redirect, to strawberries. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 05:05, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Novel

years ago (in a dorm at mount holyoke college), i came across a novel called "wild strawberries." i've always wondered, was this novel the source material for the bergman film? perhaps this novel should be mentioned in the article, if only for the sake of "disambiguation." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.206.70 (talk) 03:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Possible copyvio

Just a note, the paragraph about "the health of the 79-year-old Sjöström" is a very close paraphrasing of this source. It'll probably need some rephrasing to avoid copyvio problems. Opencooper (talk) 12:38, 20 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]