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Teams Kidd has played for
[edit]Seems all wrong. I'd edit it myself, but it appears I can't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.194.101.164 (talk) 00:22, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
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[edit]Under the section of USA Basketball this text appears "He was the only freshman chosen to take part in Team USA's 10-member team. The team played five games in Europe and finished with a record of 3-2." Then later in that same section it reads "Jason Kidd has an impressive resume in USA basketball. In his professional career, he has an undefeated record of 38-0 (44-0 if counting exhibition games)". I'm having a hard time figuring out how he had a record of 3-2 AND a record of 38-0. Some clarification needs to be made or something... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.107.176.2 (talk) 20:56, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Removal of Vandalism - "is a wife-beating, nba player"
Is Jason Kidd black or white??
i recall that he's of mixed heritage (primarily black and white) altho i couldn't turn up anything at NBA.COM at the moment.
- Jason Kidd is clearly Caucasoid, and even more significantly white. His father is African-American, but the label is not synonymous with the term black (although in American society the two can be used interchangeably). His father (like most African Americans) probably already had a significant amount of European admixture (probably even more so than the average). Kidd is indeed an African-American, as the term really refers to the long standing community of individuals descended from American slaves shipped from Africa. But clearly, he isn't negroid or anywhere close to black. -The preceding comment was added by NAfr 20:22, 15 May 2007 (UTC).
i just added a whole lot more profiling his overall game, but there is really much more to add in the future- starting with his nationally-recognised high school success. --nicolas.b 02:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The being referred to as "Ason" because he lacked a "J" was done in his high school years not in the NBA. Can someoen clarify this?
Thought the article was in need of a cleanup so I reworked it a bit, adding new info, etc. Hope this improves the overall quality of the page. He hasn't been talked about a lot this season, but he obviously has had a huge impact on the recent success of the Nets in the East. MCDRLx 05:17, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
GUYS, CAN WE NOT GET A BETTER PICTURE ON THE MAIN PAGE???? BUCSRSAFE.
- Good point, the mugshot leaves a terrible impression. --Downwards 06:07, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
In the begning of the article, the line "He led the New Jersey Nets to two consecutive NBA Finals appearances (2002 and 2003) and is considered to be one of the best players of his generation, one of the greatest playmakers in NBA history and also one of the greatest point guards in NBA history." seems a bit one sided to me. While he is a good player, im questioning the neutrality of this article. Tcmstr134 (talk) 18:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
"On December 26 2009, Jason Kidd moved into 2nd place on the all-time assists list in a win against the Houston Rockets, surpassing Mark Jackson on the list." On December? It was on November. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.30.91.1 (talk) 02:08, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Photo
[edit]Is a mug shot necessary? One of the greatest point guards in NBA history and you have a mug shot?
I removed the mugshot picture, we need a better one on the page and it leaves an awful impression. --Bucsrsafe 19:09, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
I personally like this photo from the 2006 playoffs (http://www.nba.com/media/nets/kidd_140_050713.jpg) taken from his profile on NBA.com, new here so I'm not sure if this violates copyright guidelines on wikipedia. --Meltzercool 05:46, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
why the fuck is j-kidd under wikiproject texas? born in oakland, went to school at uc-berkely, and plays for new jersey
he played for dallas mavericks
can someone remove that bit which should be BIOGRAPHY not what it currently says.
Ok, Joumana Kidd does not need her own Wikipedia. And if you are a going to have one of her, at least make it accurate. The Kidd twins are 5, not 4.
Trivia
[edit]Added Justin Kidd --Pumaren Jason Kidd's Mom was white and his Dad was Black. SO he is technically half and half, and please do not swear on Wikipedia. I am a 7 year old Genuis and i cannot be ruined by foul language
lol
Playoff triple-double clarification
[edit]One of only two players in NBA history to average a triple-double in a playoff series of six or more games (17.5 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 10.2 apg) in the 2002 Eastern Conference Finals vs. the Boston Celtics (the other is Magic Johnson).
So, is this saying that only two people have ever averaged a triple-double in a playoff series of six or more games while playing the Boston Celtics in the Eastern Conference Finals in the year 2002? I don't think Magic played in that year.
StatisticsMan 17:07, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
JASON KIDD DAD IS AFRICAN AMERICAN SO THAT MEANS
[edit]HE is african american why is that so hard for some to understand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.144.20.254 (talk) 21:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
he's both white and black, just like someone who may be Irish and German —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.68.108.237 (talk) 23:37, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
According to the "rules" in the USA, created by White people, if you have just one drop of Black blood then you are Black. Has there been a rule change, when did White's change the rule and inform the public on thie change? —Preceding unsigned comment added by
76.169.247.175 (talk) 19:46, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, the rule change came in the 1960s when it became illegal to make laws against one particular race. Yes, it is true that states like Virginia had rules on the books that defined black as having any drop of "black blood," but such laws are illegal now and have been since the 1960s. Kingturtle (talk) 20:27, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
- He is most accurately described as "of mixed descent". --Shruti14 t c s 18:21, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
how can he be white when his father is african american? wouldn't he be a mulatto and have darker skin? isnt that how genetics work? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.163.105.244 (talk) 05:51, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
He has grey eyes. Grey eyes are a recessive gene. You can not get grey eyes unless you have the "light-eye" gene from BOTH parents. There are no light eyes among sub-Saharan Africans. Therefore we can say with certainty that Kidd's father is mixed race, as is Kidd. This also explains why he isn't darker skinned. He's maybe 3/4 white or perhaps 5/8 or something like that. In the era that his father grew up in being 1/2 or 1/4 white you would be identified, and self identify, as Black. Hopefully we are now in an era where mixed race individuals are not forced or pushed into identification with only one part of their heritage. It's sad that people's comments here refuse to deal with the facts that we have many generation mixed race individuals in the USA.
Mr. Mustache?
[edit]Is this really a legit nickname for Kidd? Kingturtle (talk) 01:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- No. It was probably vandalism. Zodiiak (talk) 02:48, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
incorrect stats
[edit]yeah,
um some phoenix fan must have changed his statistics....because according to his stats here he averaged a triple double during the 99-2000 season...pretty sure that didn't happen..and the other seasons in phoenix appear to be wrong too...i was too lazy to change it though —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.116.20.36 (talk) 06:12, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Dallas Mavericks 2008
[edit]Shouldn't we wait until the trade to Dallas is signed and announced by either the NBA, Dallas Mavericks, and/or the New Jersey Nets before calling Jason Kidd a Dallas Maverick in the opening sentence? As of 6:00 PM CST, the deal is "all but signed" or "imminent" and is only an agreement on principle. He isn't officially a Dallas Maverick yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.168.76.50 (talk) 00:08, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable; I got involved by accident, just saw somebody changing a player's team name and asked on IRC if it was vandalism or legitimate. Either way, this is a momentary confusion which should be resolved one way or the other, soon enough, no? – Luna Santin (talk) 01:33, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- The trade is a done deal. The players involved were pulled from their games. Enigma (talk) 01:52, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
For all recent sports trades Shaq, Santana, etc... the team details were only changed after the trade was confirmed. Also note that there's complications in the deal with George vetoing the trade. --Madchester (talk) 02:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Enigma (talk) 02:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Just an update... neither the trade nor George's veto have been officially confirmed... so be careful with the wording of the "trade". --Madchester (talk) 02:33, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- George's veto has definitely not been confirmed and that edit came from nowhere. For the future, it's Devean George. Enigma (talk) 02:38, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- OK, George did veto it. Sorry. Enigma (talk) 02:44, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, Devean did (smart guy!), but I'm sure that Nelson and Cuban will submit another offer to the Nets. Basketball110 i'm not yik ginlyùn 03:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I removed the "Blocked trade" topic from the article. The trade is not officially blocked, it has been delayed, but to say it is blocked (yes I know that is the headline being used) is not correct. This is an encyclopedia, and the job is not to get it first, it is to get it right. I suspect it will resolve itself completely in a day or two. Arzel (talk) 23:29, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- The Mavs haven't submitted the deal, and George thinks it dead. No word from Donnie, Ave, and Markie. Basketball110 i'm not yik ginlyùn 00:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- I think it's relevant information to the Jason Kidd article. The Nets tried to trade him and it was blocked by George. Enigma (talk) 01:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- It has not been officially blocked. George said he wanted to review the situation before agreeing to it. If he agrees then the trade goes through, if not it doesn't and then we can say it is blocked, but that is not the case right now. Arzel (talk) 04:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Just a heads up to watch this page's edits with another proposed trade in the works. ESPN reports that the earliest the trade may occur is Monday... even then the trade still needs league approval and passed physicals. I will semi-protect the page again if the speculative edits about the trade go out of hand. --Madchester (talk) 02:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Recommend semi-protection. Look at all the reverts today. Enigma msg! 05:16, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Could I add the trade info? It looks like a done deal. Thanks.
76.229.134.124 (talk) 18:29, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- I reverted the latest edits, but it is indeed a done deal. I'll be making the changes. Enigma msg! 18:50, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Renamed Section
[edit]I renamed the "2001-2008" subsection to "New Jersey" because that's what the section discusses - his career with the Nets. Let me know what you think about this rename. --Shruti14 t c s 04:33, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Children
[edit]Jason Kidd has 4 children, not three. He had a child in 1993, Jason Kidd Jr. His eldest son is now a freshman in high school in California and plays basketball. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfall999 (talk • contribs) 02:49, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Early Kidd's life is wrong and incomplete....
[edit]As a former teammate and friend of Kidd's, let me clear some facts. Kidd is biracial but he considers himself black so do as such. He led St Pascal's in scoring all his years he attended. He played in the Ametuer Athletic Union since 13 where he was a starter on the 15yrs division team for "Slam N Jam". His head coach was Rick Lynch, a real estate broker. Won Tourneys in Las Vegas, Reno, Orlando, and Los Angeles and at all he was a tourney allstar and MVP. He has always had a Jumper but he was focus on assists as he wanted to be like Magic. his official nicknames are J-Kidd, The Kidd (which he had a poster with the monicker after the 1993 CIF Championship) and Little Magic. He "no showed" on a date to the prom with actress Gabrielle Union, was looked at as a baseball prospect by the Oakland A's. In the 1993 CIF High School Championship, he played against Mater Dei High School who had future NBA star Baron Davis who was a freshman on the team. Played on various teams with bay area players like Brian Shaw, Gary Payton, Antonio Davis and others.
Can someone edit this with this info Monico love (talk) 11:56, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- Need sources. Wikipedia is about verifiability. If you have sources, then please feel free to make the appropriate edits yourself. Zodiiak (talk) 14:52, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Jason Kidd
[edit]His new girlfriend, Porshla Coleman, is currently pregnant with his child. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NinaRoss (talk • contribs) 23:06, 10 November 2009 (UTC) he has 6 kids
trying to add ethnicity line to his personal line
[edit]trying to put this line in there, but it wont let me (click edit to see full line) | ethnicity = Irish American and African American[1]
References
admission to Cal
[edit]I seem to recall that California law had to be changed to permit Kidd to enter Cal as he didn't nearly meet the institution's strict academic standards. Maybe that should be added. Don't Be Evil (talk) 20:28, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from Jjdebaca, 10 February 2011
[edit]{{edit semi-protected}} 'St. Paschal's Baylon' should be 'St. Paschal Baylon'
Jjdebaca (talk) 15:12, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Ancestry
[edit]Is Jason Kidd really white? He looks as latinos and has very wide nose. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.173.95.111 (talk) 11:52, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
- Really? That is not something that we want to promote as information. If the cited sources say so, then so be it. We are not going to speculate someones race based on appearance alone. --RichardMills65 (talk) 06:01, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Biography
[edit]Does this art still need the "sources needed" template ? It looks like there are quite a few references and they are well cited. --RichardMills65 (talk) 06:00, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Who the heck is Danny Anderson
[edit]I've followed Cal forever. I have no recollection of anybody named Danny Anderson on the 92-93 Cal team making the all Pac-10 freshman team, nor any other year. I can't find any evidence of this person on the internet. Anybody know who this is? It's not referenced in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.172.173.2 (talk) 21:08, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
- Removed. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 23:03, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
- It's probably some very old vandalism. I can't find anything about him, either. Zagalejo^^^ 00:57, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Coach of Brooklyn Nets
[edit]Kidd was announced on 12 June as the new coach of the Brooklyn Nets. Just wanted to give a heads up. Kidd Announced El3ctr1csheepz (talk) 01:30, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Looking for someone to nominate this article for GA status
[edit]Does anyone think this article is up to GA status?--Bigpoliticsfan (talk) 23:27, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Player Profile and Heading
[edit]The Steve Nash page mentions he is 9th in ESPN's list of the greatest point guards of all time, twice, once on the heading and another on the player profile. Kidd is 7th in that list. you guys should add it. here's the ref link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dailydime-GreatestPointGuards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.144.167.243 (talk) 01:38, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
Add "Wife Beating"
[edit]In his personal section, first sentence, his wife beating charge is euphemistically called "domestic abuse". I say call a spade a spade and change it to "wife beating". There is no need to beat around the bush.
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[edit]Lock for vandal please?Ketlag 23:16, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Ketlag: I protected it before seeing your request. Note that it would be better to ask at WP:RFPP next time, as there are always eyes on that noticeboard. --Chris (talk) 23:39, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
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