Talk:Controlled Impact Demonstration

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NASA general information and media pages: [1], [2]
NASA NTRS query "Controlled Impact Demonstration" (technical papers, probably in public domain)
SAE paper (for purchase) and equivalent(?) NASA paper (public domain) by Robert J. Hayduk, Emilio Alfaro-Bou & Edwin L. Fasanella

Original source of article text

Nearly all the text here was cut and paste from the Controlled Impact Demonstration photograph pages such as this. The text should be in the public domain because it is an original work of NASA. Triddle 03:22, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Praise for images

- I know this doesn't have much to do with editing the article, more like a comment; but damn it, those are some cool pictures. The Post Impact 3 one is my desktop wallpaper. It's just neat. -Wunderbear —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wunderbear (talk • contribs) 19:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Footnoting

The format in this version approximately follows the shortened footnote format at WP:Citing sources#Shortened_footnotes. The reports not having author is the reason for using report numbers instead. Using repeated references with a ref name is fine, but I don't see the page number template ({{rp}}) is even mentioned on that Cite page or WP:Footnotes. So the rp template looks nonstandard to me.. -Fnlayson (talk) 05:19, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding {{rp}}: it's mentioned at the bottom of WP:FOOT, though apparently someone edited it out of WP:CITE within the last few months (this is what it used to say). It's also used on thousands of pages.

As a practical matter, I assume that it was created in order to simplify the process of using page citations in articles. To use a shortened footnote, a reader clicks the ^[1] link, which takes them to the shortened footnote with page number. Then they go through the bibliography to match the short name to a reference. With {{rp}}, the link takes them straight to the bibliography entry.

It also has the advantage of making the page display more concise, because one list of references is rendered, rather than two, and because the reference list grows in proportion to the number of distinct works cited, not in proportion to the number of total citations (of which many could belong to a single work). TheFeds 17:24, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Footnotes are used much more than the rp template. Using the rp template for page numbers disjoins the info. The page numbers are inline with the text while the references in the References section near the bottom of the article. Using shortened footnotes puts the reference and page number in the same or adjacent sections near the bottom of the article. I don't see any real justification to get rid of the shortened footnotes. -Fnlayson (talk) 16:58, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sections

It seems to me that the "History" section should either be, or be followed by, a "Design" section. I considered renaming the "History" section to be "Design", but that doesn't seem to fit. The two sections would be discrete, History being why they did it and such, while Design would be how they set up the experiment and why. Design/Test/Findings strikes me as a good sequence, if y'all follow what I'm saying. - Denimadept (talk) 18:43, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just grouped the 3 text sections under a main History section label. I can't think of a better name for that right now. Try another fitting name, maybe. -Fnlayson (talk) 19:42, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't strike me as useful. Everything is history. - Denimadept (talk) 19:47, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever then. Come with something else and try it.. -Fnlayson (talk) 21:01, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]