User talk:Dcnicholls

Hi Dcnicholls! Thanks for the e-mail note. Yes, I tried to repair the vandalism to the page, but must have missed one of your good edits; thanks for putting Reicha back (actually I didn't know he wrote string quartets--I'm only familiar with his wind quintets).

While I'm at it, welcome to Wikipedia! It's a fun place and I hope you stick around. We especially need good music editors. Best wishes, Antandrus (talk) 03:09, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

String Quartets

First of all, as a quartet fancier with an interest in the unusual I do like the job you're doing with the quartets page (though I think all such pages- this is often my fault, e.g. with Cello sonata and similar pages - aggghh!.. very much my fault there - could use some splitting, to some subjective notion of major sonatas in the list itself to give more 'room' for historical questions, balance questions (instrumental balance as they affect some of the combinations), and other issues...) and then another page that's the full list that's growing. If that's making any sense. This is already being done for piano concerto. That's a shared "gripe" since I've been contributing to that problem on many pages to the extent one thinks it's a problem at all. (I found out about Reicha's quartets from the same page Classical.net and its mailing list, but at the time only one was mentioned and I couldn't find the page again, or would have referred to it. The page I remembered from the same site, was about a group playing a Reicha quartet again for the first time in a century.) As to S. Taneyev, a composer whose piano quintet I think is astounding and whose other music is finally coming out of the woodwork too (apologies for the POV!), I'm not sure where Grove's (7?) gets the 11 from, do they have a list? My 'Oxford Concise'- the one reference I own- I often have to treat with ... often justified skepticism, but it's still useful enough, best with English and US composers in its case. I've spent more space in this comment griping than saying hi and thanks (not on behalf of Wikipedia- as I said, I'm no Admin- just megalomaniacally on behalf of the quartetish musiclover *g*) — so let that last be my final note! Schissel : bowl listen 14:04, May 21, 2005 (UTC)

reply

I think I must be a secret taxonomist - trying to collect and order information - shows up in my non-Wiki ferns pages too. I find the wiki page really useful in learning about the history and growth of the string quartet as a genre (still in the early learning stages, however). The Grove reference for Sergei Taneyev's string quartets isn't direct - it's via an extract in the Gramophone recommended recording book for 2004, but I figured it would not have got the details wrong. I have seen references to six and nine string quartets elsewhere. --dcnicholls 01:56, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

I understand the reference to six, since quartets eight and nine at least are posthumous publications (poss. seven also); when Olympia was going to re-record all the, well, ... official quartets (not including e.g. 8 and 9 though they'd reissued the Melodiia recording of same) a few years back, they released a recording of nos. 1 and 2, and listed the others they were going to record together with a rationale for recording just those. (The label is either deceased or just resting, so no joy on the cycle being completed; it's just used copies of that CD, the LP cycle of the Taneev quartet playing all... however many? 9? they recorded back for Melodiia, and the reissue by Melodiia-Olympia of 8 and 9 already-mentioned, none of them currently available to my knowledge.)

I note that http://www.lmconsult.com/xqf.html in its 1800s section, further confusing the matter lists ten. Though that - useful if doublechecked - page is only sometimes accurate, who isn't? I've already sent in a request that they fix one entry I know for sure is mistaken, though. (Rubinstein's op. 59 is a quintet, not a quartet- I've seen the score and made a midi of the first movement- though there may be an arrangement; more seriously the key of his op. 17/2 is wrong, and Mr. Morton doesn't list two of Rubinstein's quartets at all.) Schissel : bowl listen 02:30, May 22, 2005 (UTC)

Grove

Ah, yes, the subscription is expensive... you could also do what I did and find a set of the 1980 Grove on eBay (I snagged one cheap from a book liquidator in Miami and felt like a bandit...)

There sure is a lot left to write on Wikipedia, isn't there? I for one rather enjoy the feeling. Take care! Antandrus (talk) 01:59, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Merge on Sergei Taneyev

I've reinstated my recommendation for merging List of string quartets by Sergei Taneyev into Sergei Taneyev. Please see my comments on the respective talk pages. Kelly Martin 04:43, May 22, 2005 (UTC)

re: Merge Sergei Taneyev quartets

Kelly,

The reason why I created the Sergei Taneyev string quartets as a separate page is that it relates principally to the string quartet page, which is becoming a major compendium of data on the many string quartets and their composers. As such it is getting very large, and Schissel thinks that page itself is getting too long - I'm inclined to agree.

The purpose of the Sergei Taneyev string quartets page - as a separate page - was to include string quartet-specific information for the string quartet page without adding to the bloat. Merging it with the Sergei Taneyev page would confuse the original purpose, and I have not collected information on Taneyev's other compositions, so a merge would distort the Taneyev page's information content.

I really do think - for the moment - that separate pages is the way to go.

--dcnicholls 05:25, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

I've now heard that a project is afoot to record all of Taneev's music. You'll collect info on them soon enough, quite possibly. ;) Schissel | Sound the Note! 18:07, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Bargiel

You're right of course - in the 20th century dropping the key hasn't implied major or minor (e.g.: Egon Wellesz's first symphony "in C" which is what an earlier century would have called in C minor with very little doubt, and similar works not just by him...) - dropped the "four" quartets because I couldn't establish the existence of the other two except from the fact that I knew that one of them was called number four. Thanks for filling that in. Still would like to know about the other two and to hear any or all of them :) - I like his symphony and piano sonata (and octet) enough. Schissel | Sound the Note! 18:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Taneyev piano concerto

is among the November releases on the Toccata Classics label, I see. Just to mention (probably more appropriate for e-mail, but thought I should mention one way or another. Concerto in E-flat and solo piano works on Toccata Classics 0042, played by Joseph Banowetz etc.) Schissel | Sound the Note! 12:32, 14 October 2006 (UTC)