Talk:Politics of Australia

Government deparments

What has a list of government departments got to do with the politics of Australia? They belong in an article about administration. Adam 13:27, 10 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Answer:
(1) This is the destination page of Government of Australia where such a list probably could go; and
(2) Ministers of government administer departments, and that generates 'politics'!
Hence, I say, put it back. Peter Ellis 04:27, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

There is an important distinction between government and politics which should should be maintained. If you want to write an article about the structure of government in Australia, which would be a good thing to have, then de-redirect Government of Australia, transfer the "Government" section of Politics of Australia into the new article, and put your list of departments there. Adam 04:39, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I agree I keep getting frustratrated at having nowhere to link Australian Government and similar. This term refers to parliament and the public service and is quite a different thing to Politics of Australia. In fact recently all federal government departments rebranded themselves with the Government of Australia crest, and the department name smaller underneath. Has anyone started on an article about this stuff that we can redirect appropriate things to? Maybe this is worth listing on the Australian wikipedians' notice board as an article that needs work/colaboration. Martyman 23:02, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Oh good I'm not the only one irked about this.--ZayZayEM 03:10, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

This needs to be sorted out. It should not keep bunny hopping the single article back and forth. Two seperate articles definitely need to be formed. Politics covers all politics, not just federal government structure and issues.

Political data

What is the purpose of the Political data section in this article? Most of it is either covered in the Government section, or not relavent to an article on politics of Australia. The only part worth saving is the list of parties, which should be moved to the Political parties section. - Borofkin 01:13, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I agree. That "data" was copied from the CIA factbook in the early days of this article and is now mostly duplicated in Government of Australia. Adam 02:22, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Done. I left International organisations. Not sure what to do with it. - Borofkin 03:24, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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article format

most politics of articles for other countries include a discussion of (or at least Main article: links) government. for better or worse, people expect a politics articles to include a discussion of government, and so the politics of article can be thought of as a "top-level" article, with more specialised material in more specific articles. with the wikipedia:summary style we can do this nicely with short summaries of the major articles in the area. please don't revert this without a discussion here on the talk page. thanks. clarkk 23:54, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

There is no need for articles to duplicate what is in other articles. If people want to know about the structure of Australian government, they can look in the relevant articles, to which I have provided links. This article is about Australian politics. The changes you have made create the bizarre situation that the opening paragraph of the article has nothing whatever to do with the topic of the article. It is as if the article Butterflies of South America begins with a discussion of the Theory of relativity. Adam 00:57, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

i don't think that the analogy of butterflies and relativity is apt, many of the politics of... articles include a section on the system of government, see politics of the United States and politics of the United Kingdom, since the system of government is relevant to politics. i am not trying to duplicate information, i am simply summarising it (in fact i did not write the original summaries, i was simply restoring the summaries that were already there). this is a standard way of organising articles (did you look at the summary style?), government is usually thought of as an aspect of the overall politics of a country. clarkk 02:00, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I have suggested a new introductory section. Adam 02:24, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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