Talk:Allen Coage

Haemophilia?

I question the validity of this source. Coage's colleage may think Coage suffered from Haemophilia, but anyone who knows anything about that disease knows that it's incredibly dangerous to engage in physical activities that could result in getting cut. Coage was a high-level Judoka, participated in Judo in the olympics, and then was involved in pro wrestling for many years. IMO he would have been absolutely crazy to become a Judoka if he was a haemophiliac, not to mention become a wrestler, as both of these activities can very easily result in cuts, abrasions, heavy bruising, etc. all of which could be DEADLY for a haemophiliac. TheQuandry 15:35, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfair Link Removal

I linked the website where Coage did his final interview before his death and it was removed for "Spamming."

I don't understand why this isn't considered a valid link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.74.150 (talk • contribs) 19:26, 28 June 2007

Wrestlemania 4

DO NOT remove his trophy win under his accomplishments because that is the only recorded time that WWF/E has given a trophy for winning a battle royal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.167.109 (talk) 04:02, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

WWF vs. New Japan/Stampede

This article makes it appear as if his late 1980s WWF stint was a highlight or major part of his career, making his tenures with New Japan and Stampede appear insignificant in comparison. I realize that similar scenarios exist with far too many pro wrestling biography articles, but in this case, it is especially easy to cry bullshit.RadioKAOS (talk) 21:29, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Florida

Why is there absolutely no mention of his time in Florida listed or even mentioned? He was credited with "running" Lex Luger out of Florida and held all 3 of Florida's singles titles (Southern, Florida, & Bahama Islands) at the same time. Yet, no mention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.106.110.147 (talk • contribs) 20:46, 7 March 2011

Wikipedia is a work in progress. Simply put the editors who have the sources and knowledge of such information have not edited it yet to reflect those things. Since you seem to know about those things feel free to edit it. Be Bold.98.204.184.148 (talk) 18:27, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Most of the support !votes are little more than a statement of support and give no reason for the !vote. The support votes that have a basis in policy rely on common name but don't give any evedience to support that is is the common name yet evedience has been given that it isn't the common name. Hence I find the consensus is against the move. Dpmuk (talk) 05:20, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

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Allen Coage → Bad News Brown – This is the name the wrestler was better known as during his period of greatest exposure (on television while wrestling in the WWF). This name is most recognisable. This will allow more direct linking. --Relisted. -- tariqabjotu 00:01, 30 July 2013 (UTC) McPhail (talk) 20:12, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

• Support as nominator. McPhail (talk) 20:14, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
• Support --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 20:26, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
• Support per nom. LM2000 (talk) 20:47, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
• Support - As the clear WP:COMMONNAME. STATic message me! 22:48, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
• Comment - Bad News Brown is a disambiguation page.
  • Comment I would support a move to Bad News Brown (wrestler).LM2000 (talk) 02:10, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Support move to Bad News Brown. Per WP:HATNOTE, a hatnote directing the reader to Bad News Brown (musician) would suffice. There is no need for a disambiguation page. Feedback ^☎ 19:09, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose Bad News Allen is about as equally well-known, moreso in the non-WWF universe. Likely had more exposure in WWF, but for only three years of a 22-year career. If it wasn't for the ubiquity of WWF, I'd say it was absolutely clear that "Allen" is the common name, but since WWF is weighted heavily, it's something like a tie, and "Allen Coage" works by default. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:56, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

And his Olympic bronze in judo as himself is worth considering, too. Sure, it's not gold, but pretty significant part of his story. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:03, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

• Oppose To somewhat echo IEHulk's comments, take into consideration:

1. What little fame or notability he may have under his own name by virtue of being an Olympic medal winner;
2. Wrestled in New Japan Pro Wrestling as Bad News Allen, where he received network television exposure (on TV Asahi) and significant mainstream media coverage besides. In Ring of Hell (a reliable source in that it was published under editorial control), about Coage's friend Chris Benoit, Matthew Randazzo V speaks of this era of professional wrestling when stating that Benoit's debut in New Japan was viewed "by more people than had ever watched Hulk Hogan in America." I'm pretty sure that comparative television ratings were not much different during Coage's heyday in New Japan several years earlier, approximately 1980–1984. Additionally, Coage's exploits in competitive judo (and therefore, his real name) were well-known to the general public;
3. Wrestled in Stampede Wrestling as Bad News Allen. The television program Stampede Wrestling enjoyed a long run of national television exposure through syndication because of Canadian content laws.

In the case of both New Japan and Stampede, Coage wrestled for many years in these promotions in a featured role. OTOH, he didn't appear in the WWF for nearly as long, and wasn't nearly as featured. I likened his WWF tenure to someone like Ron Bass; they both drew actual money working in other promotions, but came to the WWF to wind down their careers, collecting a few paychecks while being just another part of the show. Aside from a feud and silly race-baiting angle with Roddy Piper, which led to a featured spot in a WrestleMania, I can't recall anything he did in the WWF which was as significant as, say, the Jeff Gouldie angle.

One more thing: as with the RMs for Sonny King and Stevie Ray, this delves into WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:TWODABS issues, and I doubt that all interested parties have been invited to participate in the discussion. I'm on a public computer at a place which is closing soon, or I would take care of all that footwork myself. RadioKAOS  – Talk to me, Billy 06:41, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

I've informed the Guitarist Wikiproject of Stevie Ray and the Musicians of Bad News. Sonny King seems to be under the general Biography umbrella only, so not sure if it's appropriate to bother them about it. Maybe. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:06, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

• Oppose. "Bad News Brown" seems to be the least common of the options; it returns only 337 Google Books hits, compared to 738 for "Bad News Allen"; and 570 for "Allen Coage". This book lists him under "Bad News Allen". If there's a move I suggest "Bad News Allen", though his real name splits the difference between both ring names and is well enough known.
  

However, the wrestler appears to be the most common use of the name "Bad News Brown". "Bad News Brown" musician only returns 74 Gbooks hits, most of them irrelevant or Wikipedia ripoffs. Per WP:TWODABS I'd suggest redirecting "Bad News Brown" to the wrestler's article and distinguishing the musician through a hat note.--Cúchullain ^t/c 16:34, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

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