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Baha'i Temple in Chile

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Seriously, is there are plan to update this page about "seven" Baha'i Temples in the world? I would do it, but you guys don't usually like my edits.--I'm Nonpartisan 17:55, 29 November 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by I'm nonpartisan (talk • contribs)

Eliot, Maine USA

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The visit of Abdu'l-Baha to Green Acre in 1912 was undoubtedly a great consolation to Sarah. I was also the single most important occurrance in Green Acre's history. Five hundred people greeted Him upon arrival. His week long stay underlined the significance of the property and the importance of Sarah's vision for the future.

During His stay at the inn, Abdu'l-Baha gave public talks that were fundamental to the Baha'i view of education and human development. He urged His listeners to study 'reality' so that the union of opinions and expressions may be obtained. Additionally, Abdu'l-Baha shared with Sarah and others His vision of the future of Green Acre. He said to Sarah as they reviewed to location of the great university her efforts had made possible:

"This is hallowed ground made so by your vision and sacrifice. Always remember this is hallowed ground which I am pointing out to you. This is where the first Baha'i University will be built; this is where the second Baha'i Temple in the United States will be raised" http://bahai-library.com/essays/greenacre.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.92.162.25 (talk) 16:37, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ASHGABAT MISPELLED

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Why the mispelling of the city of Ashgabat? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashgabat The is no city named `Ishqábád, never has been, to use that spelling is like spelling Beijing Peking. Wikipedia should not allow mispellings of real locations.

Change of map required

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I noticed that Karachi, Pakistan is listed as a potential construction location. However, it's not highlighted green as the other countries are on the map. Could someone please edit or change the map? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.189.147.186 (talk) 09:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Architecture and photos

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The plan here is to get the architecture OFF the main Baha'i page and put it here. Soon. Rick Boatright 05:44 Feb 21, 2003 (UTC)

Really, Really, there will be text here which justifies WHY I uploaded the photos, Ok, ok the wiki way would have been to do the text FIRST. Sorry.

I'm off to bed now. Rick Boatright 07:19 Feb 21, 2003 (UTC)

A few changes

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I've made quite a few changes, most minor but a couple in particular need to be checked (even more than the rest I mean :)

  • Turkestan -> Turkmenistan. Bahai.org calls it Ashkhabad in Russia, which seems to tie in with what is now Turkmenistan.
  • I removed: "This was the first Bahá'í community since the fall of Czarist Russia to have a population and the freedom to organize itself physically as well as spiritually." (referring to the community in Ashkhabad). Wasn't this before the Russian Revolution? sannse 17:57 Mar 1, 2003 (UTC)
Ever have one of those moment when you write somthing and have NO IDEA what you ment? Uh, yes, this was prior to the revolution. Can we just strike that part about "since the fall of Czarist" since I was clearly not thinking well? Rick Boatright 16:40 Mar 2, 2003 (UTC)

Pictures

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I recently took some pictures of the Wilmette House which I'm willing to put up, but I'm not sure how best to present them, and I don't have any text that I could really put with it besides "wow, take a look at that fancy concrete work." So if anyone wants to expound on the architecture of that particular structure and wants some pictures to go with it, let me know. (I'll release them under some nice license or public domain. They're ok, but nothing award winning. I know how to use a camera, and I was using a decent one, but I didn't really take the time to try and take really nice shots. It was awfully cold.) --jkominek 21:29, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Haifa

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I know that site at Haifa has been built upon. There's a terraced garden and a shrine. I don't know any details, though. Perhaps someone will see this and take it upon his/herself to do the research and edit the page! -- Claire

The shrine on Mt. Carmel is not a temple; the temple site has still not been built upon. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.77.29.126 (talk • contribs) .

Haifa temple

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I think stating definitively that Remey's design for the Mashriqu'l-Adhkár on Mount Carmel will, in fact, be used, is going out on a limb. Given his Covenant-Breaker status, I think it's reasonable to question its ultimate selection. I searched and cannot find any confirmation that his design will be used. I think it would be more appropriate to simply state that his design was approved by Shoghi Effendi, and leave it at that. Would anyone object to a change of phrasing here? Keldan 03:06, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Good point, go ahead. -- Jeff3000 03:12, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The reading: "A design by Charles Mason Remey was approved by Shoghi Effendi." is accurate. I don't know that his design won't be used though considering the House would be overturning the approval. It'd hinge on whether the Guardian "selected" it, making it his choice, or whether he "approved" it, meaning that he considered it acceptable. But, when I was on pilgrimage it seemed pretty clear that that was the design that'll be used.
I've seen the model at Bahji, and don't like it at all. His work was derivative (Just line up the Syndey and Kampala temples with Wilmette's.) and uninspired. (Most architects of that generation were trained to be that way.) The Mount Carmel design is a double of the Ashkabad temple. Personally, W.S. Maxwell and L. Bourgeois were both far superior. MARussellPESE 20:37, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a photograph of the sketch of the temple, which Shoghi Effendi calls the "Mother Temple of the Holy Land". Contrary to popular belief, "mother temple" is not synonymous with "continental temple" and, though the Chile Temple is the last continental temple, it is not the last "mother temple". Shoghi Effendi did indeed approve Remey's design and there is no reason to dislike it simply because he became a Covenant-breaker later in life. There were many great Baha'is who later became Covenant-breakers and that does not negate the fact that their work when they were within the covenant was good. If Shoghi Effendi felt the design was fitting, it must indeed be fitting. I personally like the Mount Carmel Temple because it blends Middle Eastern and European architecture and is both classical and monumental in its design and proportions. If you see the staircases within the design, you can imagine how huge this temple will be. My favourite currently existing temple is the one in Wilmette, because it appears very classical. The more innovative temples, like the ones in Panama, Apia, Germany, etc. cannot compare with the classical designs of the Temple in Wilmette or the Temple for Mount Carmel. The beauty of the Mount Carmel Temple will, in my opinion, far surpass the beauty of most existing temples.NicholasJB (talk) 12:40, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Order

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Actually, I'm more partial to having the Houses of Worship listed in order of construction, as opposed to alphabetically (and even alphabetically, shouldn't they be by country rather than by city?). Anyone opposed to changing it back? Keldan 19:00, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you Keldan, they should be in order of construction. Can you please change their order to match that. -- Jeff3000 20:32, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed with respect to the Mother Temples. MARussellPESE 20:37, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Planned construction of temple in Iran?

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Is this actually true? Because as I'm sure everyone here knows the Bahai religion is not legally recognized in Iran and they are a persecuted group (extremely doubtful that this will ever change under the current system), so this doesn't quite add up. SouthernComfort 21:05, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article actually states that. Until the Islamic government disallows it, it won't go forward, but it is still planned. -- Jeff3000 21:29, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
"A site has been selected, and plans drawn for the Bahá'í Temple of Tehran, Iran, but Iranian government action has thus far blocked the start of construction." IMHO, this is far too simplistic and ambiguous an explanation, all things considered. Based on this sentence, one might assume there was an attempt at construction, or at least some sort of communication with the authorities about it, which would seemingly be impossible considering the fact that one can end up in prison and possibly worse due to being Bahai. If the plans have been drawn to construct the temple for when the government changes or the restrictions lifted, whichever comes first, then that would make more sense. Sort of like when a "government in exile" is established. I'm just thinking there's a lot more to be said than one sentence. SouthernComfort 22:11, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The construction of the Tehran Temple was officially announced in both 1952 and 1964 as a goal of the Ten Year Crusade and Nine Year Plan, respectively. On both occasions, however, conditions in Iran did not allow for construction to start. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.115.144.17 (talk) 10:23, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

120 planned sites

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I just would like to point out that 120 sites have been chosen for future houses of worship. not just the 3 shown here. Pure inuyasha 01:52, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is a good interesting inclusion to the article. It aroused my curiousity. Could you please feed this curiousity by providing a reference? Thank you. -LambaJan 03:31, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sure! [1] at the bottom of the page. Pure inuyasha 04:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Expand list of future structures

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Perhaps we should have a list showing all 120 sites? Pure inuyasha 00:40, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's needed. Having a list is not that interesting. -- Jeff3000 02:12, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well I personally thought it would be nice to know if one's planned in my area. Pure inuyasha 02:23, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Persepolis, Iran

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I remember having read somewhere that 'Abdu'l-Bahá stated that Persepolis would be rebuilt in the future as a Bahá'í House of Worship. I am searching for this statement, but I cannot find it. Does anyone know where this can be found? -Wiki-uk 09:32, 20 July 2006 (U TC)

Never heard of this. -- Jeff3000 13:40, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Me either. Bear in mind that there's a lot of pilgrim's notes floating about still from those days. An awful lot of things have been "attributed" to `Abdu'l-Bahá that did not bear out. MARussellPESE 14:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In a Memorandum [2] of the Research Department of the Universal House of Justice dated 6 August 2007 it is stated:
"A statement concerning Persepolis as a future site of a House of Worship is found in a talk delivered by ‘Abdu’l-Bahá on 18 July 1915. The talk, which deals generally with Iranian civilization prior to Islam and the prospect of its resurgence, has not, to date, been translated into English. It is published in the original language in Abdu’l-Hamíd Ishráq Khávarí’s Rahíq-i-Makhtúm (Tihrán: Bahá’í Publishing Trust, 131 B.E.), volume 2, pages 499–503."
An English translation of the above title can be found here and here. The talk appears in appendix 6: "'Abdu'l-Bahá on Persepolis". Wiki-uk (talk) 09:00, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Turkmenistan not a country back in 1918.

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How could it be annexed? someone please fix this. Zazaban 20:24, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch. Fixed. Keldan 21:20, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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I feel the external links in this article are a bit messy: some are in the text, others in the reference section, other again in the external link section. I think the external link section would be preferabe for all of them. Also, the satelite image of Wilmette could be deleted, as it appears again on the Google Earth link website. Wiki-uk 04:48, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. -- Jeff3000 13:17, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This has been done now. Wiki-uk 11:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Home for the aged at Wilmette

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The article now states: 'The temple at one point also was associated with a "home for the aged," operated by the Baha'i community. The Baha'i home has since closed.' Does anyone know when it was opened, when it was closed, and why? Wiki-uk 11:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have edited this sentence a bit and will look up some specific dates for a future edit. The Baha'i Home was closed because it no longer met the Illiois Code for nursing homes or senior residential. If you had ever been there, you would agree that the structure was no longer appropriate for that use in the modern day. However, the building is now being currently used as a local Baha'i school, for regional training institutes and Ruhi meetings, as an office for the LSA of Wilmette and for Baha'i Feast in Wilmette. The general belief in the local Baha'i community is that someday the current building will be demolished and a modern care facility will be built. Someone told me that Corrine True donated the land, I'll check that. --I'm Nonpartisan 13:01, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Layout

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Putting the pictures left and right makes this article, with short entries on each item, quite 'restless'. Does anyone have any suggestions? Wiki-uk 11:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mother temple of _________

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According to www.bahaitemple.org, the website of the temple in Wilmette, the Panama City temple is the "Mother Temple of Latin America", not Central America, and Sydney's is the "Mother Temple of the Antipodes", not Australasia. In addition, several are not listed at all: Western Samoa's is the "Mother Temple of the Pacific Islands", India's is the "Mother Temple of the Indian Subcontinent", and Wilmette's is the "Mother Temple of the West". I didn't want to change the ones that are "wrong" in case they're based on something more reliable (than an official website?), and by extension I didn't add the others because I think they should probably all conform to one source. Anybody care to help on that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tjrudebeck (talk • contribs) .

I've gone through some Baha'i literature and these are the wordings I've found:
  • Wilmette
  • "Mother Temple of the West" (Citadel of Faith)
  • Sydney
  • "Mother Temple of Australia" (Citadel of Faith)
  • "Mother Temple in the heart of Australasia" (Letters from the Guardian to Australia and New Zealand)
  • "Mother Temple of the Antipodes" (Letters from the Guardian to Australia and New Zealand)
  • "Mother Temple of Australia" (Messages to the Baha'i World - 1950-1957)
  • Kampala
  • "Mother Temple of Africa" (Citadel of Faith)
  • Langenhain
  • "Mother Temple of Germany" (Citadel of Faith)
  • "Mother Temple of Europe" (Messages to the Baha'i World - 1950-1957)
  • "Mother Temple of Europe" (The Light of Divine Guidance v I)
  • Delhi
  • "Mother Temple of the Indian Subcontinent" (A Wider Horizon, Selected Letters 1983-1992)
  • Panama City
  • "Mother Temple of Latin America" (Haziratu'l Quds and Mashriqu'l Adhkar)
  • "Mother Temple of Latin America" (Messages from the Universal House of Justice 1968-1973)
  • Samoa
  • "Mother Temple of the Pacific Islands" (Messages 1963 to 1986)
  • Santiago
  • "Mother Temple of South America" (The Universal House of Justice, Ridvan 158, 2001)
So some should be changed. Regards, -- Jeff3000 02:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff, you should have just made the edit. The HOW is most certainly the Mother Temple of the West because it was built by the Baha'is communities of United States and Canada, before there were two different National Spiritual Assemblies. No one, anywhere, refers to it as the Mother Temple of the United States and I'm really, really surprised that this was let go. I'm getting a very intense, "time to roll up my sleeves" feeling here. This article could be so much better.--I'm Nonpartisan 13:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Description

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The first paragraph doesn't properly explain what a Bahá'í House of Worship actually is. Can someone please fix this? Scharb 05:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You mean a straight forward declarative sentence? Why that would be too obvious. <Good catch.> MARussellPESE 06:40, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Other sites

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I went looking to find information on all 120 planned sites. i didn't find it, but I found a listing of all the sites chosen by 1963. The information has been added to the article. Zazaban 23:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wilmette Temple.

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The huge infobox is..... weird. Anyone else think It should have it's own article and not have the infobox here? Zazaban 23:02, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is definitely weird; I don't think it should have an infobox, or a separate page; there is not enough information for each house of worship to have it's own page. -- Jeff3000 23:37, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was there because the temple is a registered nation historic place in the US. Zazaban 00:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is more than enough information on each HOW for each to have a page. Just look at the official websites. The new construction project at Wilmette alone is worthy of several paragraphs, including the new design for a visitor's center. --I'm Nonpartisan 13:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delhi Temple

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The article claims that the Baha'i House of Worship in Delhi is the most visited building in the world, but with no reference, this seems really unlikely, does anyone know if this is true? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 140.247.144.223 (talk • contribs) .

That DOES seem very unlikely. However, there is a souce and it should be included. [3] Zazaban 04:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was supposed to be CNN.com in 1997? 68.98.236.175 01:00, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Black World Map.

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Could I have a blank world map? I need it for something I plan to add to this article. Zazaban 00:21, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, done. Zazaban 02:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Added a map.

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I added a map based on information on this article. Might have to upload a new one because I stupidly used JPEG and the colour yellow. Hope it helps! Zazaban 02:12, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Zaz, we need a new map. The old one doesn't show where they are; and I couldn't figure out what the colors were for. MARussellPESE 05:06, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do have a legend, and was about to add it. Please don't just DELETE it! Just because it needs some work doesn't mean it should be removed! Zazaban 05:13, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Zaz, you had three hours to get a meaningful legend on it. Without it it didn't make sense, especially as the list of planned sites is at the opposite end of the article. It still could use the national borders showing through the highlight. Consider light green for planned. MARussellPESE 21:05, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ever think I might have been having a very busy day? Not everybody has time to do everything NOW. I was working on borrowed time just to upload it. Like I said, it needs work. Zazaban 00:37, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Then, consider planning your time so that your edits are focused and complete. Once you hit the "Save Page" button it's up here for all to see. Nobody else knows if its a work in progress; and it's a lot to ask that others wait for you to get around to fixing it on your time.
Your pardon, but this is a related issue to the one raised on your talk page about using the edit summaries. You are, by no means, the only one with limited time on your hands. A little more focus will allow you to be edited over a lot less. MARussellPESE 20:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe I did use edit smmaries. I did not know i had a lack of time when I started. Zazaban 02:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Error on Map

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Fiji is not highlighted in light green. There is in fact one planned there. Zazaban 20:29, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Neither is Israel. Zazaban 23:25, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Upgrading Content

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References should all be in place for slight edit of Australia Temple. I attended a meeting last night with the architect of the Chile Temple, and there is quite a lot of new information to add. For instance, did you know that materials for the contruction of the temple are currently being fabricated in Toronto? He predicts three years from groundbreaking to completion. Anyway, there's lots more information available for every Temple on this page. Let's get together and make an effort this summer to upgrade.--I'm Nonpartisan 20:11, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wilmette HOW

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Greetings all, I am updating and including some specific info the the Wilmette HOW and would like to include the text of the inscriptions above the entrances and alcoves. This would be 18 small quotations from the Baha'i Writings. Is there any objection to this before I do so? Does anyone know if any of the other Houses of Worship have quotations inside and out? --I'm Nonpartisan 02:53, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good to me. Someone could object because it's not verifiable (not published), but I don't think anyone will. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 05:31, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, WP:V doesn't say that something INSCRIBED ON THE SIDE OF A BUILDING would be verifiable. Careful, some wikisith will enjoy deleting them.
Seriously, by all means add them. MARussellPESE 23:22, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiSith? There's no problem with referencing the quotes, they are in the Whitmore book and can be reference by page number there. I bet they are on the USBNC website,too.--I'm Nonpartisan 03:30, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello All. I have made my first wikitable and have attempted to describe all the decorative elements inside and outside the temple. Easier said than done. Please feel welcome to add 2, 5 or even 10 cents. I must say that the wikipedia swastica article is excellent, I'm so glad I went over to look at it. Also, at Portal Baha'i I didn't see an easy link to the House of Worship page. I think as we grow this content that there should be one. AND, as I have only visited one House of Worship, do any of the others also have engraved Baha'i Writings, and are they the same verses as those in Wilmette?--I'm Nonpartisan (talk) 04:50, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Chile2.jpg

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John Joseph Earley

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I finally made the correction so that the page links with the biography page for John Joseph Earley, but his page could be greatly expanded, and it needs a paragraph about the Baha'i Temple, which he believed was his greatest accomplishment. I can't do this right now as I'm working on another project, but if someone has the time, it's a worthy task.I'm Nonpartisan 05:20, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

edit request

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In the first sentence, is it okay to change the word temple to chapel? Temple gives the indication this is a Dharmic religion when it's not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iwanttoeditthissh (talk • contribs) 09:45, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No - temple is more neutral - chapel is explicitly Christian. though you are right in that the religions isn't explicitly a dharmic religion. But there are Jewish temples afterall. Smkolins (talk) 12:54, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Major updates needed

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This article is completely out of date, and needs a major rewrite and update. For example, there are now more than 8 temples world-wide, and several of the "planned" sites have been built, like the one in Haifa, Israel. There is also one in Akko (Acre), Israel. I don't know enough or have the time to do the research, but this is very out of date and should be updated. By the way, the existence of the temple in Haifa predates the creation of this article. WikiTome Talk 17:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WikiTome, neither of the sites you mention are Baha'i Houses of Worship; one is the Shrine of the Bab, and the other is the Shrine of Baha'u'llah, both in the Baha'i World Centre. The article is fully up to date with the actual buildings that exist, and the one in construction. I will be removing the tags. Regards, -- Jeff3000 (talk) 20:18, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, they aren't houses of worship. I was under the mistaken impression that they were. My apologies.
While we're on the subject, it's worth noting that one of the countries with a planned Temple, Fiji, is not marked on the map as such. 64.180.40.100 (talk) 18:47, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New Photos

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Our current photos of the Baha'i House of Worship do not reflect the completed restoration project. I've uploaded some current photos for the editors to look at and to choose to use if they wish. They are on the commons.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Baha%27i_House_of_Worship,_Wilmette,_Illinois.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Garden_and_fountain_at_the_Baha%27i_House_of_Worship_in_Wilmette,_Illinois.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Baha%27i_House_of_Worship,_Wilmette,_illinois.jpg76.193.178.244 (talk) 13:55, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seven new Houses of Worship

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I have made a first attempt at adding this big news to this page, it may be that this is not the correct section, and certainly more links need to be added and a better reference web link for the Ridvan letter, but it's a start.I'm Nonpartisan 17:32, 21 April 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by I'm nonpartisan (talk • contribs)

I'm removed the addition, because statements need to be published by reliable sources. Self-published sources such as wordpress don't count. Regards, -- Jeff3000 (talk) 18:00, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here is an official link regarding the new Temples: http://news.bahai.org/story/906 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.115.144.17 (talk) 10:28, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Already included. Looking forward to more coverage from the media on this. Smkolins (talk) 19:30, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a new map where I removed the 1963 plan and added the 2012 plan [4]. I found that some locations like Congo and Kenya were not in the 1963 plan, so I found it to confusing to have both plans mixed in one map. If there are no objections I'll add the map in a few days. --Steinninn 14:40, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I like it. Smkolins (talk) 00:38, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

HOW Chile

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Hello friends, Since I never seem to do this the right way, the first time, here is a link to an article in 2012 which gives the date of the signing for the construction contract for the HOW in Chile, which should have some updated information in it's entry: http://news.bahai.org/story/891I'm Nonpartisan 16:58, 20 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by I'm nonpartisan (talk • contribs)

Upgrading this Webpage

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Hello Friends, I stopped by to pick up some links for the course I'm building over at the Wilmette Institute about the Mashriqu'l-Adhkár (April 1) and instead have been doing a lot of linkage repair. I know that you all are working hard, but perhaps we can schedule a day, time, task chart for checking links on all the pages, as they do expire, and since many pages have been built, there are improved resources. I'm Nonpartisan 00:16, 3 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by I'm nonpartisan (talk • contribs)

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9 Houses of Worship?

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Do we say that there are 8 Houses of Worship, or 9? Currently the text of the article reads "There are currently eight Bahá'í Houses of Worship. The eighth Bahá'í House of Worship, located near Santiago, Chile, opened its doors on October 19, 2016." and then proceeds to list 9 Houses of Worship, including the one in Battambang, which just opened. So do we change it to 9? Or do we still say there are 8 Houses of Worship? Nadeem.navidi (talk) 03:38, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That should be edited to say 9. Be bold! Cuñado ☼ - Talk 04:57, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Why is Iran marked on the map?

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The image showing sites of Houses or Worship has Iran marked in red, which according to legend means there used to be a House of Worship in the country. The article text gives no indication of this, though. Is there a reason for this? Gazelle55 (talk) 18:43, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure that's wrong. Turkmenistan was first, then Chicago. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 22:34, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, makes sense. Will fix it when I find time. Gazelle55 (talk) 23:18, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I was about to comment on this lol. Good that people have taken notice. dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 02:40, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I checked out the file and there seems to have been confusion about the difference between "Bahá'í centres" (Haziratu'l-Quds in Persian) and "Bahá'í houses of worship" (Mashriqu'l-Adkhar in Persian). There were none of the latter yet in Iran, but many of the former—in fact the dome of the National Baha'i centre in Tehran was destroyed by a mob in a very high-profile incident in 1955, if memory serves. That would be for a different map though! dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 07:57, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've never figured out how to make those maps so I don't know how to fix it. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 18:47, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've never done images on Wikipedia before but the current file says that it was created from a template. Those are available at this page. Kenya and Vanuatu also needed to be added. I hope to get to it eventually though I'll have to do some reading about images first. Gazelle55 (talk) 00:40, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'll give it a try. dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 09:37, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Any thoughts? dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 10:00, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, looks great to me, Dragfyre. I like how you added different colors for the city locations too. This is a big improvement. Gazelle55 (talk) 15:03, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fundraising

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I removed the reference to Mr Rustamptir donating a "major part" of the land for the Indian temple. The source says that he contributed about 71% of the money that was used to buy the land, not including the construction of the building. I don't know how to convert rupees into dollars, but I would guess the cost of land was pretty cheap compared to the temple. The story comes from the Baha'i News Service and the point of the story was to emphasize the sacrifice that he made, and it seems out of step with the rest of the article to put that detail in there. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 16:53, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Infoboxes

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Well, the infoboxes don't fit because there's not enough text for them to float through. What if I made a gallery of the infoboxes at the bottom of the section? You could scroll side to side to see them all. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 20:06, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's an interesting idea, though there are twelve temples already and the infoboxes would really start to pile up. Is there any precedent for having a gallery of infoboxes in an article? I've only seen one infobox per article in the past. Gazelle55 (talk) 23:24, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, also—this info mostly duplicates what is already at List of Baháʼí Houses of Worship. Maybe it could just be added there and then we could have a more standard gallery featuring just images? Gazelle55 (talk) 23:28, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cuñado, this seems to have gotten lost, but I've been working on this page and I'd like to deal with the white space issue. There is quite a lot of space between most of the continental temple entries and I don't think it looks good. A gallery of infoboxes at the bottom would be better, but like I wrote above I've never seen that elsewhere. Is there any precedent? Or something from the MOS on this? I would think it's better to take any sourced info from the infoboxes and add it to the text as well as to List of Baháʼí Houses of Worship – then as many images as can fit comfortably in the body could go there and the rest could go to a gallery of images at the bottom. But I don't want to remove the infoboxes if they could still be used since I can see you put work into them, let me know your thoughts. Gazelle55 (talk) 20:46, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend merging everything into the table at List of Baháʼí Houses of Worship, then move that table to the bottom of this page in its own section, then redirect that page to here. Then maybe the remaining pictures in the text could be grouped into galleries every once in awhile? Cuñado ☼ - Talk 22:45, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Infoboxes are gone. I put the info from the infoboxes into the text with sources and made a gallery for images at the bottom. If the number of images increases a lot it might be good to split it into multiple interspersed galleries like you said. As for merging in the list page, you can propose it if you think it's a good idea and get some more opinions. Imo, list pages are often not good where the thing being listed isn't well defined... but in this case it's pretty clear what is and isn't a Baha'i House of Worship so I thought it was a reasonable page to have. Gazelle55 (talk) 16:41, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting edits by an IP editor

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An IP editor made a number of changes to the article several hours ago. While some of the changes were good tweaks, some changes were not good:

  • They added claims that are not in the sources.
  • They removed a paragraph sourced to academic literature with no explanation.
  • They added material without a source.
  • They added material using a source that doesn't meet Wikipedia's reliable sources guideline (which can be seen at WP:RS).

I am going to revert the problematic changes (while preserving the good changes). Please realize I am not trying to be uncooperative... if you would like me to explain further about why I made these changes or want to discuss improvements to the article, just let me know here or on my talk page. Best, Gazelle55 (talk) 12:54, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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