Talk:World Poker Tour

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Trying to understand the reason why particular revisions/additions are reverted. None of the contributions I've made are inaccurate or promotional (SPAM) - they all pertain to the goals and objectives of WPT. Thoughts and clarifications would be appreciated.

First their is a consitent styling to the wording of links that is used in the Wikipedia, and also in these related poker articles. That is why "Official site" is used, to be consistent. Second, multiple links to the same website are unnecessary and rather pointless. One link to the wpt site and one link to the chipleaders site are fine contributions. Beyond that we don't need to duplicate the internal navigation of those sites in this article. Third, assuming the previous anonmous edits were yours, you had tracking/referal code on the links, which is never going to fly. 2005 21:17, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Question for wikipedians: how can the WPT continue to exist as an sponsored entity that does not _directly_ generate revenue for the performers (the players). What I mean is, the prize pool is generated solely off of entry fees, and yet the Travel Channel and others must be making a killing off the advertising. How long and under what circumstances can the status quo hold?

- WPT sells its TV rights to Travel Channel as a studio. It signed a 5 year deal with Travel that is worth $40 million USD. Also, WPT owns and retains the right of the TV show for its distribution in foreign territories. World Poker Tour is playing in over 100 regions around the world.

signed 21:27 Shanghai time 22 Dec 2004

2005

Its better to have the discussion here than in the edit notes. You should be ashamed of editing work in the name of impartiality when your lack of expertise is what makes you see it that way. If you have specific knowledge to contradict someone's "editorializing" you can go ahead and edit it. Short of this specific knowledge, you are just antagonizing content providers and showing off your ignorance.

In this case, Erick Lidgren and Howard Lederer are NOT two-time winners this year, they were in past years. If 2005 is comparing past season's wins to this season's wins he is deluding himself: it is _much_ harder to win multiple tourneys now that the number of entrants has swelled across the poker competitive landscape. This is common knowledge to anyone who keeps up-to-date with current goings-on. Negreanu's emergence from the pack is a major developing poker story this year--it would be fair to say that he has displaced Gus Hansen as the poker-worlds "it" figure. To put this in perspective, Negreanu has now won more than _twice_ as much on the WPT as money list #2 Gus Hansen, whom this article calls a "legend". Calling him the WPT's "new star" is the kind modest understatement that is appropriate for this encyclopedia entry.

signed 20:34 Shanghai time 23 Dec 2004

I agree that Negreanu's been doing pretty good this year. I don't agree with your last line, though. I'm not sure what the WPT Walk of Fame has to do with Negreanu. I've put him further up in the article with other poker players, and made a mention of his recent achievements. Hopefully this will satisfy you both... CryptoDerk 15:09, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)

Of course that is where Daniel's name belongs, further up the article in a correct context. He has nothing to do with the Walk of Fame at this point, if he or anybody else is ever inducted in the future, they too should be mentioned. 2005

Prizemoney

Who is writing these articles? Where is the mention of prize money to the winner ?

Live commentary

At least some of World Poker Tour is commented live. This is proven in the coverage of season three's WPT Mirage Poker Showdown. After winning a pot from Gabe Kaplan with an all-in reraise, Jim Minnesota Slim Meehan says "I heard Mike (Mike Sexton) on the mic, he said 'Jim bet all his chips, if he loses this pot, he's out of the tournament.' I thought 'Holy mother of God, can I bet a little less?" In other words, Jim heard Mike Sexton during the tournament, after he bet and before the pot was decided. Similar events have occurred before, with Doyle Brunson replying during the tournament about what he heard said by the commentators. Unfocused 17:13, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

• I think that a lot of the "fluff" commentary that Sexton and Van Patten do is post-production, but I've seen players react to commentary before when watching WPT on TV, so some of it is definitely live. Willbyr 19:41, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

You are wrong. And you really shouldn't have made that revert (though 2005 switched it back). Mike and Vince are there, commenting on the events, live at every WPT event. BUT THEY NEVER GET TO KNOW OR SEE THE HOLE CARDS UNTIL POST PRODUCTION. What is "Aired" on television is a mix of the two. This is standard practice for television editing and has nothing to do with poker. However, the STATE GAMING REGULATIONS where MANY (but not all) WPT events are played PROHIBIT someone from observing these "camera" devices during play. However, the WPT hole card commentary is the same no matter where they go, it's all done in post. BUT YES it is true you can, in certain episodes see Mike and Vince chatting live with the players etc. but NEVER EVER about their hole cards (because Mike and Vince don't know them!!) - Abscissa 05:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Notes about poker tourneys

In the article, it states that "all other competitors" win a portion of the prize pool. It's my understanding that this is not 100% correct, as only the top (n) competitors place in the money, depending on the # of entrants. The article should be edited accordingly, or maybe it could state that all the players who make the final table for a televised WPT event earn money. Willbyr 19:41, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Comment vs. Commentate

HTH. HAND.

comment |ˈkämˌent| noun

• a remark expressing an opinion or reaction : you asked for comments on the new proposals.
• discussion, esp. of a critical nature, of an issue or event : the plans were not sent to the council for comment.
• an indirect expression of the views of the creator of an artistic work : their second single is a comment on the commercial nature of raves.
• an explanatory note in a book or other written text.
• archaic a written explanation or commentary.
• Computing a piece of specially tagged text placed within a program to help other users to understand it, which the computer ignores when running the program. verb [ trans. ] express (an opinion or reaction) : the review commented that the book was agreeably written | [ intrans. ] the company would not comment on the venture | “He's an independent soul,” she commented.
• [ trans. ] Computing place a piece of specially tagged explanatory text within (a program) to assist other users.
• Computing turn (part of a program) into a comment so that the computer ignores it when running the program : you could try commenting out that line. PHRASES no comment used in refusing to answer a question, esp. in a sensitive situation. DERIVATIVES commenter noun

commentate |ˈkämənˌtāt| verb [ intrans. ]

• report on an event as it occurs, esp. for a news or sports broadcast; provide a commentary. ORIGIN mid 19th cent.: back-formation from commentator

- Abscissa 00:42, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Seasons (Results) Pages

Please add the dates, specifically the years to the various articles. Thanks.

Why don't you? Essexmutant 16:55, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Sexton Quote

"We just wing everything. We have no scripts, we have nothing, I mean honestly, that's the truth. A little secret for your viewers now. But in truth, any time players are looking at their down cards we can't see those down cards while we're sitting in the booth. We actually go back to post, and edit, and do the show all over again where we can see the cards, and just like we're seeing it for the first time. But it's against gaming regulations for us to be allowed to see the cards while the event is happening live. They way they mix it up and put it all together on the World Poker Tour it looks like it's happening on the spot." - Mike Sexton in "Holdem & Foldem: The World of Poker" mini documentary. - Abscissa 23:51, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Are you suggesting we put this on the content page? 23:28, 4 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.181.160.60 (talk)

Fair use rationale for Image:Hd LogoWPT.gif

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BetacommandBot 02:23, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Poker Is Not A Sport

I know that some people want to make the case for poker being a sport. It isn't. There are no physical skills or talents required for poker beyond handling poker chips. A man who is over 70 and who weighs over 250 pounds (Doyle Brunson) is still competitive in poker. Mikevegas40 (talk) 05:11, 19 October 2008 (UTC) ___________________________________________________________________________________

The word "sport" has 14 definitions. SO which definition are you referring to???

sport /spɔrt, spoʊrt/ noun 1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc. 2. a particular form of this, especially in the out of doors. 3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime. 4. jest; fun; mirth; pleasantry: What he said in sport was taken seriously. 5. mockery; ridicule; derision: They made sport of him. 6. an object of derision; laughingstock. 7. something treated lightly or tossed about like a plaything. 8. something or someone subject to the whims or vicissitudes of fate, circumstances, etc. 9. a sportsman. 10. Informal . a person who behaves in a sportsmanlike, fair, or admirable manner; an accommodating person: He was a sport and took his defeat well. 11. Informal . a person who is interested in sports as an occasion for gambling; gambler. 12. Informal . a flashy person; one who wears showy clothes, affects smart manners, pursues pleasurable pastimes, or the like; a bon vivant. 13. Biology . an organism or part that shows an unusual or singular deviation from the normal or parent type; mutation. 14. Obsolete . amorous dalliance.

only definitions #1 and #2 refer to athletics.

Definition #3 refers to games that are not athletics and #11 specifically refers to gambling.

Athletics is sporting that requires physicality.

Gaming is sporting that requires intellect.

Both are sports.

Both require skills. The best will win consistently and the worst will lose consistently.

Both require strategy.

Both require stamina and endurance (one physical, the other mental)

Both require focus and concentration.

Both require knowledge of your opponent and anticipation of what their next move will be and the best way to beat them.

Both require a sense of competition, fair play and a desire to win.

If successful both can earn you a lot of money in the modern world

People refuse to admit that sports don't involve luck too. What about when the wind carries a baseball that would have been caught out of the park? What about when a referee doesn't see a flagrant foul committed against a player which then results in the other team scoring. Those are both examples of luck in sports.

Face it. Like it or not, poker is a sport.

Most titles

Most titles is in the infobox but World Championships are not. When someone wins more than one World Championship will that be added to the infobox? Mobile mundo (talk) 22:28, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Has anyone collected prize money ive been waiting 3 months

Has anyone collected prize money ive been waiting 3 months 2601:8C4:4300:D330:59DF:7354:28BF:DF5 (talk) 02:48, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Proposed merge of World Poker Tour bracelet into World Poker Tour

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was merge (no discussion) . ZimZalaBim ^talk 21:26, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

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No reason for this to be its own article - no indication of special notability other than just a prize on the World Poker Tour. can simply be a brief mention here. ZimZalaBim ^talk 15:57, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.