Talk:Rising (Rainbow album)
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Isn't the album actually titled Rainbow Rising?
[edit]Isn't the album actually titled 'Rainbow Rising'... that's what it says on my vinyl copy and the artist is down as 'Blackmore's Rainbow'... 81.31.97.129 00:33, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- It's Rising. It's not heavy metal either, it's hard rock.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.162.187.252 (talk • contribs) 04:24 24 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, the spine of the LP does have it as Blackmore's Rainbow, although the front cover doesn't. Al —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.217.240 (talk) 04:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
- It was originally, on the gatefold sleeve LP and on the record label, if anyone still has that. (I used to have a promo poster for the LP with 'Ritchie Blackmore - A Rainbow Rising', FWIW) Only later on did it become referred to as 'Rising', by Rainbow. The first studio album that billed the band just as 'Rainbow' was 'Long Live Rock 'n' Roll'. 81.31.97.129 (talk) 21:29, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Progressive rock
[edit]I wonder why no-one mentioned that this album is an progressive rock record? Lengthy 6 to 8 minutes-long epics with sophisticated arrangements, untypical melodies, distinctive keyboards, fantasy lyrics... I think that's enough to consider it and Long Live Rock'n'Roll progressive.--95.37.255.59 (talk) 11:00, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not that I really disagree or anything, but it would be great if you could find a (reliable) source suggesting that they are progressive. --L1A1 FAL (talk) 14:17, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
- Well, you can find Rainbow on progarchives.com. I believe that this site can be concidered as a reliable source. Anyway, it definitely showcases that I am not alone in my suggestions.--95.37.255.59 (talk) 17:38, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
- Prog Archives lists them as prog-related, not progressive rock proper. It does say that their first four albums (especially the songs "Stargazer" and "Gates of Babylon") inspired symphonic progressive metal bands like Symphony X though. Nite-Sirk (talk) 22:48, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Bowie and Queen are in prog-related too, though nobody will argue that they both had art-rock/prog albums in they discographies. And so Asia is in prog-related category too, that's just for your information. Same with Rainbow — their post-Dio stuff (except for some tracks from Stranger in Us All) was very far from prog at all — yet Rainbow had their prog moments on Rising and Long Live Rock'n'Roll. And y-es, they had inspired sympho prog metal — so I don't think that this is reasonable to claim that founders of any genre's sound were that far from this genre so you will consider them as a completely different genre.--109.184.212.99 (talk) 02:40, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- Well, Prog Archives claims that Rainbow influenced progressive and symphonic bands, not that they played progressive rock. By that same logic, we would list Swans as grindcore and industrial metal as they influenced Napalm Death and Godflesh, or Suffocation as deathcore or slam death metal since they use breakdowns and influenced deathcore and slam bands. Also, Prog Archives is not considered reliable in Wikipedia (see here). Nite-Sirk (talk) 21:20, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- I don't think it's progressive rock. It's just two really long songs that don't change TOO much throughout. I'd say it's still heavy metal but not speed metal, the last song is the only fast song on there.108.81.33.59 (talk) 03:36, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
- Well, Prog Archives claims that Rainbow influenced progressive and symphonic bands, not that they played progressive rock. By that same logic, we would list Swans as grindcore and industrial metal as they influenced Napalm Death and Godflesh, or Suffocation as deathcore or slam death metal since they use breakdowns and influenced deathcore and slam bands. Also, Prog Archives is not considered reliable in Wikipedia (see here). Nite-Sirk (talk) 21:20, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- Bowie and Queen are in prog-related too, though nobody will argue that they both had art-rock/prog albums in they discographies. And so Asia is in prog-related category too, that's just for your information. Same with Rainbow — their post-Dio stuff (except for some tracks from Stranger in Us All) was very far from prog at all — yet Rainbow had their prog moments on Rising and Long Live Rock'n'Roll. And y-es, they had inspired sympho prog metal — so I don't think that this is reasonable to claim that founders of any genre's sound were that far from this genre so you will consider them as a completely different genre.--109.184.212.99 (talk) 02:40, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
- Prog Archives lists them as prog-related, not progressive rock proper. It does say that their first four albums (especially the songs "Stargazer" and "Gates of Babylon") inspired symphonic progressive metal bands like Symphony X though. Nite-Sirk (talk) 22:48, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Well, you can find Rainbow on progarchives.com. I believe that this site can be concidered as a reliable source. Anyway, it definitely showcases that I am not alone in my suggestions.--95.37.255.59 (talk) 17:38, 29 April 2012 (UTC)