Talk:Peter (given name)

Inclusion criteria

In my opinion this page would be better restricted to those people and things which are sometimes known just as Peter - so the apostle Peter, Peter Rabbit, the Japanese actor if he is indeed notable and probably Peter the Great, in; Peter Jackson, Peter Green and Peter Parker, out. I don't think that trying to make a list of famous Peters is worthwhile; everyone will disagree on who deserves to be in - I note that the top Google Peter, Peter Gabriel, isn't currently in, and I doubt Peter Greenaway is in the top 100 Google Peters; and I'm not convinced it would be encyclopaedic even if agreed to be the 20 Most Famous Peters. We would be better with just disambiguation, plus history of the name itself. Opinions? TSP 03:18, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable. JimmyShelter 08:09, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I agree. Name disambiguation pages such as this are for people commonly known solely by that name. People are often known solely by their family name. (George W. Bush is widely referred to as "Mr Bush" or just "Bush", for example, hence name disambiguation pages often contain long lists of people with a given family name. Other examples are Rasputin, Hitler, and Houdini.) People are less often known solely by their given name, and this is largely the case mainly for historical figures, not 20th century or modern ones. (Rare exceptions: Dannii, Britney.) Peter Jackson, Peter Green, Peter Parker, Peter Greenaway, Peter Gabriel, and Blue Peter are not commonly known as just "Peter". The apostle, the anti-popes, and the emperor are. Uncle G 12:08, 2005 May 25 (UTC)
What everyone else said. Very sensible. --W(t) 12:10, 2005 May 25 (UTC)

A collection of Peters!

You should check out the the pete collective an online / offline gathering of people called Peter! They'd almost certainly have a valid opinion on this matter! The creator of the website and founder of the collective, Pete Trainor, is currently trying to rally as many Peters as he can to break the world record for gathering as many people as possible with the same first name into one place at one time. The record is currently held by 1500 "Mohammeds" from Dubai.

According to the Bible, there is no mention of any "Pope", or "papa" (the early Church was Jewish, and then Greek, not dominated by Romans or Italians for several hundred years. For hundreds of years, during the early years of Christianity, and after Constantine the pagan converted to Christianity, each capital city had its own local pope, or bishop, as a religious leader, and they were subject to the king or ruler of their province, not to any central religious figure in Rome. The Roman religious domination by the Pope didn't happen until much later.

In other words, Peter could not have possibly been the first pope, and if there WAS one, it would have been James in Jerusalem, not somebody in Rome. In general, the leaders in Rome were involved in persecuting the early Christian Church, viciously and to the death (for not being pagans, and for refusing to acknowledge the "deity" of the Roman Emperor), for hundreds of years. Also, in Christianity, all of the believers are "saints" ("those who sanctify, or set apart, Christ in their hearts"); so, calling Simon "St. Peter" does not set him apart from the other rank-and-file Christian believers. (Oct.)

Peter is the first Pope because Christ so names him. "Whatsoever you bind on Earth, is bound in Heaven. Whatsoever you loose on Earth, is loosed in Heaven." Whatever else you believe, it is Canon, and unless you can travel through time and prove otherwise, tradition holds. Christ tells Peter, "Upon this rock, I build my Church." The rock is Peter. Christ charges Peter with the creation of a new kind of Church. A kind of Reform Judaism at first, yes, but it evolved into more than that in twenty centuries. Christ wanted to include all of humanity in his Church, not just the "clean" or "worthy" that Judaism (at that point) was willing to include. The title "pope" only means father. The Roman Pope is separate from the head of the Coptic Church and the leader of Greek Orthodoxy and the head of the Aramaic Church, for whom James may well have been the "pope" but this isnt the place to argue about popes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.81.76 (talk) 03:37, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pyotr

We have quite a few articles about varios Pyotrs. Any comments on wheter this is a correct usage?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 00:01, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Piotr is a traditional Polish transliteration, Pyotr is a traditional Russian one. Check Britannica usage, for instance. You may also want to search Google News for Piotr and Pyotr: the former query yields Polish results mostly, the latter finds article pertaining to Russian people. --Ghirla | talk 19:21, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Peta

I've also seen the name "Peta" as a girls name... it may qualify for "related" Elper 20:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New Testament reference

Why is this here if it does not actually cite any sources to support that the biblical figure Peter had anything to do with the origins of the name? Why too, in the infobox, is the origin of the name filled in as "Biblical", when the article has not offered any data to support this claim? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Indja (talk • contribs) 15:42, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are quite correct. I've fixed it, for the most part.--Father Goose (talk) 21:12, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In French, "Tu es Pierre, et sur cette pierre, je construirai mon église". Note the play on words. Meaning is "You are Peter, on this stone I shall build my church". Of course, in English, the whole pun is lost. Because "Peter" doesn't mean "stone" in English. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.200.120 (talk) 03:51, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Scandinavian

Why doesn't this page make a distinction between the Scandinavian languages? (I tried to introduce it, but it has been changed back) Although many of the forms are common to all three languages, Peder is specifically Danish and Pär is specifically Swedish. Also, Petter is by far most common in Norway, so some distinctions could easily be made. --Thathánka Íyotake (talk) 21:18, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Try introducing it again. I have no opposition to your suggestion here.--Father Goose (talk) 03:02, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Peter (given name)/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Petrovna is a Patronymic, not a given name. this page should be deleted.

Substituted at 18:07, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Nino?

What's with the Croatian "Nino"? How does "Petar" turn into "Nino"?--2003:EE:3F12:47E1:70A4:F10:64B3:3069 (talk) 13:43, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Origin

Is the name directly of Christian origin? Was the name commonly used at all before Christianity? 104.232.119.107 (talk) 03:03, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]