Talk:Bambara people

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Bambara, the real name is Bamanankan or Bamanan language. The language is not SVO as such but rather SOV for direct object and SVO for indirect object. Youssouf

I ye tinye fo. Olu ye "Bamananw" de ye, ani u be "Bamanankan" fo. However there is a lot of discussion along the lines of whether we should use the language's own name, such as in the case of Europe, Deutsch, Français, Nederlands, Italiano, and many names I don't master. I think it's okay to call the people and the language Bambara in English, but certainly in the Wikipedia editions in Bambara (and other Manding languages) one would naturally use terms based on Bamanan.A12n 16:52, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Merging "Bamanan tribe" into this article

Yes. It's the same subject. And the term "tribe" is considered in many circles to be inappropriate anyway.A12n 16:52, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Enslaved Bambaras to America

The section on Religion where you state:

Although most Bamana today adhere to Islam, many still practise the traditional rituals, especially in honoring ancestors. This form of syncretic Islam remains rare

This form of Islam is not syncretic. What is being revealed is the oldest form of Islam practiced by them and many other African clans who migrated into Arabia and Yemen (especially the Fulani) prior to the Arabs and Mohammed's usurpation of the Ka'aba. It was their ancestral deities and shrines that Mohammed destroyed when he seized their religion. see: http://www.mamiwata.com/chamba/Page4.html

In the section regarding the enslavement of the Bambara and the name being used as a general ethnic classification by the French, this too might not shed clarity on the fact that millions of the Bambara were captured and enslaved by the French enroute to the Americas. I recently visited Niger and other countries last year. My 5x grandmother was Bambara from Mali. Many of her children were captured and enslaved in America. My Mitochondria DNA reveals the presence of Bambara from Mali which confirms our family ancestral oral history. I suspect that she was not the lone Bambara whose children were captured and enslaved in the Americas.--74.229.102.208 (talk) 14:50, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

merge

I merged in content from Bamana tribe -- note that this material is unreferenced and needs to be checked and re-written. phoebe 05:17, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

some cleanup January 2008

More is needed. The "Bambara Tribe" merge from 2006 still hasn't been edited for content or style, and so most of what's there is a mess, and much important isn't there at all: things like social/caste structure, relations to other Mande peoples (growing in part out of the creation of the Bamana state and their resistance to Islam). If you can edit, and you got a minute, please do.T L Miles (talk) 17:24, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Contested statements removed to talk

• Hampate Ba, a Malian philosopher and writer, stated "we have learned weavers, sculptors, potters and smiths were members of exclusive societies in which the masters, assisted by their servants, taught the apprentices the sacred craft. Rather than derive money...they devoted themselves to the sacred craft in order to please the gods and the spirits of the ancestors." {{Fact|date=January 2007}}

Please do not restore this information to the article without a citation.--BirgitteSB 03:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

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